villaman 9,983 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Everyone have there opinions and he is not the first person to say it after shooting and testing these slugs , I have come to a conclusion myself about 22lr nobody else has forced me into my thoughts Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 55 minutes ago, villaman said: Everyone have there opinions and he is not the first person to say it after shooting and testing these slugs , I have come to a conclusion myself about 22lr nobody else has forced me into my thoughts I’ve got slots for all sorts Mitch but no .22 1 Quote Link to post
Rimfireboy! 1,463 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 11 hours ago, villaman said: Everyone have there opinions and he is not the first person to say it after shooting and testing these slugs , I have come to a conclusion myself about 22lr nobody else has forced me into my thoughts True enough about opinions vm. Although how these slugs can outperform a .22 bullet I don’t know? Shot from a 40ft lb air rifle they’re never going to match the energy at any range, a .22 subsonic bullet will retain 70-80ft lbs at 100 yards. The comments from your gun shop puzzle me in that respect, not quite sure what he means by that statement. However, I am intrigued and will look forward to finding out for myself. Just need the crown now...........and some slugs 1 Quote Link to post
goldfinger 135 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 29/11/2019 at 23:36, villaman said: Like I said in another post , these slugs are making the .22 air just as capable as a .22 lr , if not better 1 Quote Link to post
vizlauk 1,568 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 40 grain gilded hollow point nose at 1435 ft/sec 22 percent greater energy at 100 yards than regular high-speed hollow points Special HP cavity design, derived from Speer® Gold Dot® technology, retains virtually 100 percent bullet weight Clean-burning propellants keep actions cleaner Sure-fire CCI priming Reusable plastic box with dispenser lid Velocitor # 0047 CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT (GR) BULLET TYPE BOX COUNT 22 LR 40 CPHP 50 Velocity, ft/sec MUZZLE 50 YARDS 75 YARDS 100 YARDS 1435 1230 1149 1084 Energy, ft-lbs MUZZLE 50 YARDS 75 YARDS 100 YARDS 183 134 117 104 Trajectory if sighted at 75 yards 25 YARDS 50 YARDS 75 YARDS 100 YARDS 0.3 0.9 0.0 -2.5 How can a fac .22 air possible match this ! Quote Link to post
Rimfireboy! 1,463 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 18 hours ago, vizlauk said: Next they will be telling you Santa Claus is real, and you will suck it in, no way can you compare .22 fac to .22lr , slug or not . Utter bullsh1te What are you trying to say about Santa? 2 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,009 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 I do believe that in many cases, fac air with or without slugs will do a great deal towards equaling the effect in the field on rabbits and similar but it is the flexibility of load in a .22lr that gives the advantage. Wind resistance is something we will learn about as time goes buy and I have .25 slugs to try. Phil Quote Link to post
Rimfireboy! 1,463 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 38 minutes ago, philpot said: I do believe that in many cases, fac air with or without slugs will do a great deal towards equaling the effect in the field on rabbits and similar but it is the flexibility of load in a .22lr that gives the advantage. Wind resistance is something we will learn about as time goes buy and I have .25 slugs to try. Phil Some on eBay Phil, but solid. Item 323915523059 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,009 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rimfireboy! said: Some on eBay Phil, but solid. Item 323915523059 I want the hollow point but thanks for that, I will have a look. Phil Just looked but never heard of them, perhaps worth a tenner to have a go but I bet they are similar to H&N Grizzly which were sh1te in my Impact barrel. 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 6 hours ago, vizlauk said: 40 grain gilded hollow point nose at 1435 ft/sec 22 percent greater energy at 100 yards than regular high-speed hollow points Special HP cavity design, derived from Speer® Gold Dot® technology, retains virtually 100 percent bullet weight Clean-burning propellants keep actions cleaner Sure-fire CCI priming Reusable plastic box with dispenser lid Velocitor # 0047 CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT (GR) BULLET TYPE BOX COUNT 22 LR 40 CPHP 50 Velocity, ft/sec MUZZLE 50 YARDS 75 YARDS 100 YARDS 1435 1230 1149 1084 Energy, ft-lbs MUZZLE 50 YARDS 75 YARDS 100 YARDS 183 134 117 104 Trajectory if sighted at 75 yards 25 YARDS 50 YARDS 75 YARDS 100 YARDS 0.3 0.9 0.0 -2.5 How can a fac .22 air possible match this ! This is not for sub sonic ammo , sub sonic is about 1060 FPS Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, philpot said: I do believe that in many cases, fac air with or without slugs will do a great deal towards equaling the effect in the field on rabbits and similar but it is the flexibility of load in a .22lr that gives the advantage. Wind resistance is something we will learn about as time goes buy and I have .25 slugs to try. Phil Phil , I would say .22 airgun slug has more flexibility, like shooting up trees , which you can’t with rimfire . Until you try these slugs , I don’t think you understand what they can do , this is not just me saying this but others who are using slugs 1 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,009 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, villaman said: Phil , I would say .22 airgun slug has more flexibility, like shooting up trees , which you can’t with rimfire . Until you try these slugs , I don’t think you understand what they can do , this is not just me saying this but others who are using slugs You are forgetting Mitch, I have been using fac air for over 4 years so I know the benefits but I am totally ignorant regarding slugs and have much to learn but the flexibility I was referring to was ammo available. As an example, I doubt I will use too much subs as the appeal of the med power HV at around 1200fps or jumping up to 1650fps when needed. I have bought my Tikka for a reason and think it will get less use than my Impact but nevertheless it has it's place, the hmr on the other hand doesn't offer that much to me and is bloody noisy to boot which is why I have not bought one yet and doubt that I will to be honest. You have new versions of the fx barrels Mitch which I do not, mine is a Mk1 with none 'X' barrels so the fx slugs have the greatest appeal. I am tempted to talk to Fredrick at fx to gain some info to see if the slugs are suitable for my age barrel. I sincerley hope they are suited. Phil Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 H&N slugs shoot great out of the standard liner Phil and I believe the FX slugs will as well Quote Link to post
philpot 5,009 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 39 minutes ago, villaman said: H&N slugs shoot great out of the standard liner Phil and I believe the FX slugs will as well Your standard barrel is an 'X' barrel though Mitch, mine is not and that is what I need to establish. Quote Link to post
vizlauk 1,568 Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, villaman said: This is not for sub sonic ammo , sub sonic is about 1060 FPS No one mentioned subsonic or hv, my point is you are on the understanding that .22 fac air can do what a .22lr , my point is it can't. Quote Link to post
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.