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[gnasher16 30,220]

1 hour ago, blackmaggie said:

its on the westham forum knees up mother brown its a good read for all football fans it does show the level of feeling about the move and imput from other fans to  theres a few like it on other club forums but that ones the best one it does seem most of the older fans from clubs that have moved feel like you nash and some think like wilf i get both sides of it and its interesting how many fans from them clubs now follow a local non league team because of the move 

Oh ok i avoid West Ham forums 

No your right the proofs in the pudding non league football across East London and Essex ( probably a lot of other places too ) is seeing a resurgence....and naturally more investment is coming in at that level....its just about the ONLY benefit to moves like West Hams.

[gnasher16 30,220]

53 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

If Rafa could do what he did with Newcastle despite the owner asset stripping the club then think what he could do with a club that has an owner who actually wants the club to succeed on the pitch like the Leicester owner does.

I think that West Ham's problems might be at board level. Are the owners committed to the football club like the fans are or are they looking at it as a cash cow?

They came along giving us the  " one of your own " ....." raised on the manor "......" bleed claret and blue " caper......which as someone whos done ok in business myself didnt really wash but i could see the pitch was a good one and i for one backed them 100%.............the minute they mentioned the move i knew time was up.

These are old men leaving heirlooms....one of them virtually told me as much !

[Nicepix 5,650]

I think that today is a difficult period for league football. It has become money obsessive. The FIFA are pushing the world Club Championship - more money generated but the local fans won't see much of the matches unless they too have deep pockets. And it will wreck the PL as we know it. There are people buying football clubs just for the money they generate and others are like kids buying a train set. The Cardiff owner is a classic example. First thing he wanted to do was change the 'Bluebirds' strip to his favourite colour - red! That didn't go down too well.

The best examples seem to be Leicester and Bournemouth and the worst have got to be Southampton who have sold every decent player they have had on their books and failed to re-invest any of the proceeds.

[blackmaggie 3,376]

44 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Is that the one with Roker Park on where it says official highest attendance over 75k

no mention of 75 k max you did get a brief mention though have a read max i see theres some golden comments on your forums is the burger king playing today 

[blackmaggie 3,376]

1 minute ago, maxhardcore said:

Off to Preston is the rumour

neil wouldnt have him hes to much trouble max plus he doesnt fit in with his style of play i think blackpool under grayson is a better shout fancy eating fast food before a game plus hes looking at a young city player what did you make of your move max 

[WILF 47,344]

1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

Wilf im sorry ive got to ask you this as your doing my f****n swede in now 

Why on earth did you want to move to a big ground and become a big club attracting big players that will take us to the next level......if you now want everything we already had at the old place ?

Because apparently we were poor and could not keep the great players we produced or attract/afford anything better than end of career or 1st division players and journeymen managers brought in to “try” and keep us out of trouble.

It should have meant putting an end to those excuses.

I never wanted to be a “big” club, I wanted to be a club that did itself justice and didn’t just take the piss out of itself all the time.

Ill ask you a question mate, do you think our footballing history from academy to World Cup only warrants being treated like f**k all in favour of being able to walk past Queens Market and have a bit of pie and mash ?.........don’t you think we should be trying to live up to that footballing pedigree ? 

[WILF 47,344]

1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

Oh ok i avoid West Ham forums 

No your right the proofs in the pudding non league football across East London and Essex ( probably a lot of other places too ) is seeing a resurgence....and naturally more investment is coming in at that level....its just about the ONLY benefit to moves like West Hams.

There you go, football has changed massively.

If you want the whole day out with your pals, 2 yards from the pitch, steak pie and a bovril and see a bit of gritty football then non league is the way to go......I go all the time when I’m over, I f***ing love it.

If you want to see absolute top of the tree, top of the pay scale, expensive players in the best stadiums, 20yds from the pitch on an entertainment package day out then you go to a premier league game.

That, as they say, is life......I watched Harry Redknapp in Life Stories the other night....he had a part time job at Tesco and Bobby Moore worked in a factory to make up their wages and they all sat in the cafe on a Saturday morning and used the salt and pepper to work out formations for the match........it’s lovely, we would all like to sit and have egg and chips and a mug of tea with a few players before the game but that ain’t reality any more mate.

If that is the thing you crave in your football then your thing with your non league teams is going to make you feel much more at home mate.

[blackmaggie 3,376]

16 minutes ago, WILF said:

There you go, football has changed massively.

If you want the whole day out with your pals, 2 yards from the pitch, steak pie and a bovril and see a bit of gritty football then non league is the way to go......I go all the time when I’m over, I f***ing love it.

If you want to see absolute top of the tree, top of the pay scale, expensive players in the best stadiums, 20yds from the pitch on an entertainment package day out then you go to a premier league game.

That, as they say, is life......I watched Harry Redknapp in Life Stories the other night....he had a part time job at Tesco and Bobby Moore worked in a factory to make up their wages and they all sat in the cafe on a Saturday morning and used the salt and pepper to work out formations for the match........it’s lovely, we would all like to sit and have egg and chips and a mug of tea with a few players before the game but that ain’t reality any more mate.

If that is the thing you crave in your football then your thing with your non league teams is going to make you feel much more at home mate.

thats the nail on the head wilf  i prefer non league  the fancy stadiums and packages coming along kind of took something from the game for me when it really become a massive business for big money men before it seemed like local lads made good that took over your club i think roy keane hit the nail on the head years ago the prawn sandwich brigade taking over but that said theres some serious money being ploughed in to some non league clubs now 

[blackmaggie 3,376]

24 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Grayson after him too.

Bidding war between Preston and Blackpool .

wont happen max he doesnt fit the team plus he was trouble when he was here a bad gambler and drinker by all accounts thats why we let you have him 

[WILF 47,344]

4 minutes ago, blackmaggie said:

thats the nail on the head wilf  i prefer non league  the fancy stadiums and packages coming along kind of took something from the game for me when it really become a massive business for big money men before it seemed like local lads made good that took over your club i think roy keane hit the nail on the head years ago the prawn sandwich brigade taking over but that said theres some serious money being ploughed in to some non league clubs now 

Mate, it was obvious years back that when you accepted all seater stadiums then it was going to go that way.

I stopped worrying about going down the Hammers when they made it all seater......it completely ruined my football day out, people talk about the atmosphere at the new ground being shit,  to me it diminished  when they put in the seats.

It was f***ing terrible compared to standing with your pals and thousands of others.

After that it was the odd game when I felt like it and obviously when my boy came along I had to take him and from a dads point of view it’s nice when you have little kids.......and that is really what they want it to be.

They don’t want a group of lads running out the queens at five to three, telling everyone to f**k off out the way in the their rush to get into ground for kick off and then the whole tribal thing of standing in a big crowd of your own hyped up to f**k........they don’t want that in top flight football at all.

Old football lads don’t belong in the modern top flight game and grounds, I’d watch football anywhere from the park on Sunday to a premier league ground because I just like football but I accept what each thing is.

[blackmaggie 3,376]

19 minutes ago, WILF said:

Mate, it was obvious years back that when you accepted all seater stadiums then it was going to go that way.

I stopped worrying about going down the Hammers when they made it all seater......it completely ruined my football day out, people talk about the atmosphere at the new ground being shit,  to me it diminished  when they put in the seats.

It was f***ing terrible compared to standing with your pals and thousands of others.

After that it was the odd game when I felt like it and obviously when my boy came along I had to take him and from a dads point of view it’s nice when you have little kids.......and that is really what they want it to be.

They don’t want a group of lads running out the queens at five to three, telling everyone to f**k off out the way in the their rush to get into ground for kick off and then the whole tribal thing of standing in a big crowd of your own hyped up to f**k........they don’t want that in top flight football at all.

Old football lads don’t belong in the modern top flight game and grounds, I’d watch football anywhere from the park on Sunday to a premier league ground because I just like football but I accept what each thing is.

all seating killed the atomsphere at most grounds like i said earlier its not for me but i still have a general interest in the game but nothing like it was alot of pubs round here have shut that use to be rammed on match days were you could catch up with old mates but its all but gone now were you could feel the atomsphere and the buzz as you got in the ground but like you say wilf its aimed at familys and money theses days 

[blackmaggie 3,376]

1 hour ago, maxhardcore said:

Grayson after him too.

Bidding war between Preston and Blackpool .

i see your getting done at home again max scored by none other than thick  should sign him up 

Edited December 14, 2019 by blackmaggie

[WILF 47,344]

18 hours ago, NEWKID said:

I f***ing wish.... not one of them.could lace his boots...

Looks like you lot are pushing to sign Haaland mate, good shout that.

You will wind up with Rice as well, it’s just what we do.

[blackmaggie 3,376]

decent point today max things might be on the up 

[blackmaggie 3,376]

6 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Sack Parky and get SKP in with Reidy and things will be on the up.

We would get 35-40k per week just off the back of them .

donald cant afford them and i doubt they would go  anyway when your  parachute payments stop at the end of the season your over heads next season will be massive your season ticket sales will be down if you carry on like this your stuck in a rut max thats why you got parky what was todays atttendance max 

Edited December 14, 2019 by blackmaggie