moonlighter 1,163 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 I do a bit of terrier work and ferreting on game shoots and it’s never scares the birds off. What scares the birds off is the shoot the previous weekend, but some gamekeepers don’t get that. A shoot near me shoots the same woods and cover every 2 weeks, yet the gamekeeper didn’t like me ferreting the dykes as it scares the birds lol. Nothing to do with his shoots then 1 Quote Link to post
fireman 10,869 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 hours ago, moonlighter said: I do a bit of terrier work and ferreting on game shoots and it’s never scares the birds off. What scares the birds off is the shoot the previous weekend, but some gamekeepers don’t get that. A shoot near me shoots the same woods and cover every 2 weeks, yet the gamekeeper didn’t like me ferreting the dykes as it scares the birds lol. Nothing to do with his shoots then So do i and some drives he don't want us near because there shooting the next day but they have one drive they have shot twice in one day before so disturbance of a drive sometimes makes a difference and sometimes it don't ,but when it's a mans living on the line that has been disrupted in the past then you do what the keepers say if you want to keep your permission(well i do anyway).A fickle bunch are keepers but if you have an idea of how birds are then you will sort of understand what's allowed and whats not at certain times. 4 Quote Link to post
moonlighter 1,163 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 What I sometimes find is the gamekeeper wants nothing to do with me, but the land owner, who offen dosnt shoot wants me to sort out the rabbits and hares. One owns the land, the other rents the area for cover crops. Quote Link to post
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, moonlighter said: What I sometimes find is the gamekeeper wants nothing to do with me, but the land owner, who offen dosnt shoot wants me to sort out the rabbits and hares. One owns the land, the other rents the area for cover crops. I got that a lot when seeking permission hawking. The landowner would grant permission only to ring me up a few days later to explain the keeper had overruled his decision. Same old excuse about disturbance, though many falconers put down their own birds without such problems apparently? 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,875 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Accip74 said: I got that a lot when seeking permission hawking. The landowner would grant permission only to ring me up a few days later to explain the keeper had overruled his decision. Same old excuse about disturbance, though many falconers put down their own birds without such problems apparently? You cant really tell a hawk it's just rabbits today Quote Link to post
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Black neck said: You cant really tell a hawk it's just rabbits today You can control what you’re slipping at though... My point is the disturbance I’m likely to cause is negligible compared to a shooting party, it’s mostly an excuse. Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,875 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Accip74 said: You can control what you’re slipping at though... My point is the disturbance I’m likely to cause is negligible compared to a shooting party, it’s mostly an excuse. I agree Quote Link to post
fireman 10,869 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Accip74 said: You can control what you’re slipping at though... My point is the disturbance I’m likely to cause is negligible compared to a shooting party, it’s mostly an excuse. A shooting party pays to be there and good money to,so i recon most shoots if you matched a shoot days money your'd get your freedom... 1 1 Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, fireman said: A shooting party pays to be there and good money to,so i recon most shoots if you matched a shoot days money your'd get your freedom... offer to do some dogging in that always scores browny points with keepers and also gives ya dogs some work ? Quote Link to post
fireman 10,869 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Loton Moocher said: offer to do some dogging in that always scores browny points with keepers and also gives ya dogs some work ? Me giving away a few greenfinches to a fella who knew a gamekeeper got me 12,000 acres to play with my terriers on,but if i tried to do some dogging in with my lot i'd fecking loose it .. 1 Quote Link to post
two crows 3,342 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, fireman said: Me giving away a few greenfinches to a fella who knew a gamekeeper got me 12,000 acres to play with my terriers on,but if i tried to do some dogging in with my lot i'd fecking loose it .. what greenfinches do you keep mate I used to breed them 30 odd years ago. 4 hours ago, Accip74 said: You can control what you’re slipping at though... My point is the disturbance I’m likely to cause is negligible compared to a shooting party, it’s mostly an excuse. correct but its their excuse to make, I don't even like my farmers doing stuff and its their shoots I look after, lol Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,254 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 8 hours ago, fireman said: Me giving away a few greenfinches to a fella who knew a gamekeeper got me 12,000 acres to play with my terriers on,but if i tried to do some dogging in with my lot i'd fecking loose it .. you wasn't doing him any favours giving him greenfinchs the greedy bleeders just sit on the seed tray all day eating a hole in your seed bill ?lol that's unless they were rare cinnimons ? Quote Link to post
fireman 10,869 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, Loton Moocher said: you wasn't doing him any favours giving him greenfinchs the greedy bleeders just sit on the seed tray all day eating a hole in your seed bill ?lol that's unless they were rare cinnimons ? Cinny's and silvers mate ... Two crows i don't keep birds at the moment,to busy with work and what time i have spare is taken up with terriers at this time of my life but they will be back... 1 Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 My dad always had a moto when I 1st started only kill what you can carry and carry what yah can kill and if you ain't gonna eat it or put it too good use don't kill it abit different when it came to foxes though 2 Quote Link to post
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 13 hours ago, fireman said: A shooting party pays to be there and good money to,so i recon most shoots if you matched a shoot days money your'd get your freedom... I’d of gladly paid per bird mate Quote Link to post
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