Let's talk HPRs...

[Born Hunter 17,787]

Okay, so I want to start with an admission of the fact that I have next to f**k all first hand experience of HPRs. But what I have read about them over the years really interests me. Also, this is really just ground work for the future. I'm not buying one next week, more like in 5 years.

In truth, for most of what I do spaniels suit me but I do a bit of all sorts and the versatility and pointing nature of the HPRs would certainly have a place in addition to a spaniel or two in my kennel. Our little DIY syndicate is more of a hybrid driven/walked-up shoot, than a tradition driven shoot, ie lots of blanking in and walking Guns. Pheasant, Mallard and English partridge are the bulk of the bag. There's also no dedicated picking up team and so dogs get a varied day. I also get a bit of stalking in and general vermin stuff. So you can see my interest.

I'm leaning towards Wirehaired Viz' or maybe GWP if I'm feeling brave. I'd imagine working HPR and spaniel simultaneous could end in ruination of the HPRs steadiness on point? I sort of see them as different tools to be used independently?

Really I'm just looking to stimulate a bit of opinion sharing about HPRs.... 

 

Stamp of these! (random google pic)

 

Edited September 24, 2019 by Born Hunter

[mark williams 7,558]

Hi BH,

               I just love the GSP, German Short Hair.

               Airgun hunting ( static), Shotgun hunting and static, trapping , walked up, retrieves everything to hand, they are superb gun dogs and very good watch dogs too.

              Flushes a woodcock here after the command  " go on ".

  On point for a rabbit.

Static air gun, all retrieved to hand.

 

 

                        GSP are great all round hunting dogs.

                                             Good luck.

 

[BenBhoy 4,706]

55 minutes ago, mark williams said:

Hi BH,

               I just love the GSP, German Short Hair.

               Airgun hunting ( static), Shotgun hunting and static, trapping , walked up, retrieves everything to hand, they are superb gun dogs and very good watch dogs too.

              Flushes a woodcock here after the command  " go on ".

  On point for a rabbit.

Static air gun, all retrieved to hand.

 

 

                        GSP are great all round hunting dogs.

                                             Good luck.

 

And they have the silkiest most strokeable ears (I'm not a girl, I promise). I like dogs ears.

[BenBhoy 4,706]

On 24/09/2019 at 14:39, Born Hunter said:

Okay, so I want to start with an admission of the fact that I have next to f**k all first hand experience of HPRs. But what I have read about them over the years really interests me. Also, this is really just ground work for the future. I'm not buying one next week, more like in 5 years.

In truth, for most of what I do spaniels suit me but I do a bit of all sorts and the versatility and pointing nature of the HPRs would certainly have a place in addition to a spaniel or two in my kennel. Our little DIY syndicate is more of a hybrid driven/walked-up shoot, than a tradition driven shoot, ie lots of blanking in and walking Guns. Pheasant, Mallard and English partridge are the bulk of the bag. There's also no dedicated picking up team and so dogs get a varied day. I also get a bit of stalking in and general vermin stuff. So you can see my interest.

I'm leaning towards Wirehaired Viz' or maybe GWP if I'm feeling brave. I'd imagine working HPR and spaniel simultaneous could end in ruination of the HPRs steadiness on point? I sort of see them as different tools to be used independently?

Really I'm just looking to stimulate a bit of opinion sharing about HPRs.... 

 

Stamp of these! (random google pic)

 

https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/features/the-point-of-pointers-5970

[terryd 8,537]

That dog kept in or out Mark ?

[mark williams 7,558]

In Terryd, he's very family orientated but not allowed on any chairs or upstairs.

             He won't let me out of his sight and sits by me all the time, at bed time he goes to his bed by the lounge window - he`s a good watch dog and misses nothing.

[forest of dean redneck 11,686]

In our local free paper was some munsterlander pups for sale didn’t say what size or price but a breed you don’t see every day

[Moorman 1 1,399]

GWP he's used as a hawking dog and for marking vermin to ground on shoots etc. Reportedly they are the most versatile of the HPR breeds and are very adaptable for a multitude of duties.

 

 

Edited September 27, 2019 by Moorman 1

[Moorman 1 1,399]

Another pic !

 

[Born Hunter 17,787]

Cheers for the posts folks. All welcome.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone with experience of Wirehaired Vizlas. 

[vizlauk 1,568]

I can't help you with the wirehaired Vizsla,  but I would advise to give smooth coat vizsla's a miss, they are to soft in nature, I've tried a few different breeds of hpr, gsp, weimaraner & I've had 6 smooth coated Hungarian vizsla's,  only 1 Vizsla out out the litter had great potential & a game keeper got that 1, if I ever went for another hpr breed, it would be a wirehaired pointer, I consider them to be the hardiest of the lot & the gsp to be the most loyal. 

[wilbur foxhound 480]

Born hunter where abouts are you,I have a book about villa,s here if you want it,pm me if you like wf

[Born Hunter 17,787]

On 02/11/2019 at 20:42, wilbur foxhound said:

Born hunter where abouts are you,I have a book about villa,s here if you want it,pm me if you like wf

Thank you for the offer mate. But I'm not much of a reader so it'd likely be wasted on me. Cheers though.

[wilbur foxhound 480]

6 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Thank you for the offer mate. But I'm not much of a reader so it'd likely be wasted on me. Cheers though.

It was meant to say visla not villa,but no worries,atb

[jakk 6]

Id go with either a HWV or something else to think about a Braque Francois Pyrenees (not the Gascogne) both are very capable and very owner-centric. I would avoid Brittany's like the plague I've never seen an outstanding one yet. GWP are fantastic dogs but they have a real aggressiveness to them I've known four cases like this, two turned into confirmed sheep killers and the other two killed their own siblings for absolutely no reason (reviewed by cctv) having been kennelled together for many years. They are also quite ploddy compared to the lighter HPR's.