Good deer dogs (pure)

[shaaark 10,929]

5 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

I meant shape wise/ running style not size but they're lumps for sure.  Those big bucks dwarf any dog 

Yep, some of the bucks are certainly impressive.

[Moocher71 4,050]

22 hours ago, gamerooster said:

If I had access to the firearms they have in the states, I wouldn't be running deer with dogs. Just not worth the risk.

Its like the posts you see on here of "whats the best old fashioned pot filling lurcher"...... none, a roll of brass wire can catch everything a dog can and more, plus it doesn't need fed.

Me grandad never had a dog for anything else but coursing hares and everything else he took with wires and catty ,also see Abe Stanley take a hare out its seat by hand ,he's  the only person I've seen do it and not just the once .

[mC HULL 13,796]

26 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

Speed don't mean f**k all if there's nothing to bounce them off for most fallow, doesn't take balls either. Big deer are a skill, seen dogs that won't take fox take fallow

Will make it look slow, don't mean it'll grass it. Big fallow are like halfway between a horse and a cow. They take stopping 

half way between a horse and cow your great south a facking shetland be 4 x the weight of a fallow bounce them off big open land there’s nothing to bounce em off 

 

[mC HULL 13,796]

4 minutes ago, Moocher71 said:

Me grandad never had a dog for anything else but coursing hares and everything else he took with wires and catty ,also see Abe Stanley take a hare out its seat by hand ,he's  the only person I've seen do it and not just the once .

were abouts was abe from moocher

Edited February 11, 2022 by mC HULL

[SheepChaser 8,089]

43 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

Speed don't mean f**k all if there's nothing to bounce them off for most fallow, doesn't take balls either. Big deer are a skill, seen dogs that won't take fox take fallow

Will make it look slow, don't mean it'll grass it. Big fallow are like halfway between a horse and a cow. They take stopping 

Sorry I don't quite get you? Plenty of dogs catch fallow on the run in the open mate. And yes I agree with you that taking big deer requires level of skill from a dog, but I think it also does take bottle, to hit into something much bigger than you and ruck with it once its down. I would argue that fora lot of dogs, a fox is a lot easier to do, but that also just about mindset. Edited to add big bucks a different animal to the rest of the fallow population. 

Edited February 11, 2022 by SheepChaser

[Moocher71 4,050]

Just now, mC HULL said:

were abouts was abe from moocher

He was born at stow horse fair and travelled all over England/ Wales but his family settled in March near huntingdon .

[SheepChaser 8,089]

16 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

half way between a horse and cow your great south a facking shetland be 4 x the weight of a fallow bounce them off big open land there’s nothing to bounce em off 

 

Yer to be fair mchull right on this one - big fallow would be 80-100 kilo and a miniature Shetland pony would be about 120kg. We kill out fat cattle over about 700kg. 

[South hams hunter 8,935]

2 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Sorry I don't quite get you? Plenty of dogs catch fallow on the run in the open mate. And yes I agree with you that taking big deer requires level of skill from a dog, but I think it also does take bottle, to hit into something much bigger than you and ruck with it once its down. I would argue that fora lot of dogs, a fox is a lot easier to do, but that also just about mindset.

Catching them doesn't mean it'll hit the ground mate, not with fallow and/or red imo. Seen plenty grabbed and kicked off or shook off. 

I'd never thought about it like that, the size thing. Just as I said, seen dogs that won't grab a fox for fear of being bit pull fallow 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

These wee ninjas have some serious fight pound for pound. Fascinating things.

[South hams hunter 8,935]

2 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Yer to be fair mchull right on this one - big fallow would be 80-100 kilo and a miniature Shetland pony would be about 120kg. We kill out fat cattle over about 700kg. 

As I said to shaark, I meant shape/ running style. I know they're not the same size  f**k me seen em almost daily all my life 

[mC HULL 13,796]

1 minute ago, SheepChaser said:

These wee ninjas have some serious fight pound for pound. Fascinating things.

nippy twisting all over and when getting necked get all 4 feet going 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

Just now, South hams hunter said:

Catching them doesn't mean it'll hit the ground mate, not with fallow and/or red imo. Seen plenty grabbed and kicked off or shook off. 

I'd never thought about it like that, the size thing. Just as I said, seen dogs that won't grab a fox for fear of being bit pull fallow 

When I say catch I meant on the deck. And aye I’ve seen dogs kicked off, stamped on, thrown into trees, spiked and end up dead. 
 

Seen plenty dogs running them waiting for a mistake not wanting to commit when at full run. 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

nippy twisting all over and when getting necked get all 4 feet going 

Seem dogs take a let hold and get opened up like a can of beans by those tusks abs also take a neck hold and get a bad do off the spikes coming backwards fast. 

[SheepChaser 8,089]

[mC HULL 13,796]

7 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

As I said to shaark, I meant shape/ running style. I know they're not the same size  f**k me seen em almost daily all my life