jukel123 8,314 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) I've been into boxing ever since I was a kid. My memory goes right back to 1955 when I remember listening to the Don Cockell v Rocky Marciano on the radio. (I cried my eyes out when he lost.) The seventies was the golden age of the heavyweight division. Since then we have had a steady decline in relevance and honesty in the game. Fury's fight is going to be a complete fiasco and we all know it. Somebody said in the homelessness thread " how did we get to this state?" You could ask the same thing about heavyweight boxing. The noble art is akin to American wrestling now. It's a joke. Personally I think they've killed the golden goose. I get more pleasure at watching amateurs and the smaller guys now. It's a shame. Edited September 13, 2019 by jukel123 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,978 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I've been into boxing ever since I was a kid. My memory goes right back to 1955 when I remember listening to the Don Cockell v Rocky Marciano on the radio. (I cried my eyes out when he lost.) The seventies was the golden age of the heavyweight division. Since then we have had a steady decline in relevance and honesty in the game. Fury's fight is going to be a complete fiasco and we all know it. Somebody said in the homelessness thread " how did we get to this state?" You could ask the same thing about heavyweight boxing. The noble art is akin to American wrestling now. It's a joke. Personally I think they've killed the golden goose. I get more pleasure at watching amateurs and the smaller guys now. It's a shame. I'm sure max will be watching it. Knob in hand throwing himself around the living room.. 2 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 7,356 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 I agree its a shit fight but to be fair who else is he supposed to fight at the moment whilst he waits for one of the other big names to be free'd up ready for a fight. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jobi 387 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) It's a terrible fight but let's be clear even the greatest of all times faced his fair share of bums in between big bouts, you can't be fighting Joe Frazier's every bout. Saying that Fury hasn't had any gruelling bouts so it's inexcusable. Edited September 13, 2019 by Jobi 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,568 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: I've been into boxing ever since I was a kid. My memory goes right back to 1955 when I remember listening to the Don Cockell v Rocky Marciano on the radio. (I cried my eyes out when he lost.) The seventies was the golden age of the heavyweight division. Since then we have had a steady decline in relevance and honesty in the game. Fury's fight is going to be a complete fiasco and we all know it. Somebody said in the homelessness thread " how did we get to this state?" You could ask the same thing about heavyweight boxing. The noble art is akin to American wrestling now. It's a joke. Personally I think they've killed the golden goose. I get more pleasure at watching amateurs and the smaller guys now. It's a shame. My first boxing memory is Clay Liston ,,,and I enjoyed the days when heavyweights had actual boxing ability ,before the days when it became like basketball ,where the proper skilful ,talented fighters play second fiddle to a bunch of amateur leve,l baby giraffe s 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,314 Posted September 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Astanley said: My first boxing memory is Clay Liston ,,,and I enjoyed the days when heavyweights had actual boxing ability ,before the days when it became like basketball ,where the proper skilful ,talented fighters play second fiddle to a bunch of amateur leve,l baby giraffe s Agree. Marciano fought at 13 stone 7.As the size of heavyweight boxers has gone up their abilities have gone down. They now resemble pawing , probing stick insects. About as riveting as a chess match. When Fury beat Klitchko there was not a decent blow landed. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 I think it’s going to be the fight of the century, better than anything Ali or lomachenko can do and best of all he is doing it in his opponents own backyard....... 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jobi 387 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Agree. Marciano fought at 13 stone 7.As the size of heavyweight boxers has gone up their abilities have gone down. They now resemble pawing , probing stick insects. About as riveting as a chess match. When Fury beat Klitchko there was not a decent blow landed. Marciano would have been a LHW if he was around today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,834 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, Jobi said: Marciano would have been a LHW if he was around today. And still knock anyone out at the top today Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jobi 387 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: And still knock anyone out at the top today LHW's yes, HW's highly unlikely. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,876 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stoney100 said: I think it’s going to be the fight of the century, better than anything Ali or lomachenko can do and best of all he is doing it in his opponents own backyard....... oh hang on, wallin is swedish and they are fighting in las vegas! Edited September 13, 2019 by shaaark 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,834 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Jobi said: LHW's yes, HW's highly unlikely. Let’s agree to disagree even the manassa mauler would do it as he showed once caught the giants fall badly as Ruiz also showed against AJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jobi 387 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: Let’s agree to disagree even the manassa mauler would do it as he showed once caught the giants fall badly as Ruiz also showed against AJ Dempesy would have had a much better chance of beating the giants, horses for courses or so they say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,834 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Jobi said: Dempesy would have had a much better chance of beating the giants, horses for courses or so they say. The key to it is tiring them out then getting the ko when they’re too f****d to even hold they’re hands up to defend, fight them off the back foot then take the opertunity Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jobi 387 Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: The key to it is tiring them out then getting the ko when they’re too f****d to even hold they’re hands up to defend, fight them off the back foot then take the opertunity Marciano was a come forward bulldozer, he never heard the word back foot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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