cantona 310 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Dbod you sound new to this game, what your intentions are is what a lot of people want when they start, creating your own line or stamp ,there's experienced people on this forum, a few not a lot are worth listening to mate, to get where you want with that breeding will take at least 15 years , that's if every mating gels 2 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,694 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Was it summat I said? I’m likeable really No your not who Told you that 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,891 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 45 minutes ago, Dbod said: Sadly lads I posted a topic on here looking for information on the Bedlington terrier x greyhound,i got great feedback till today ,so far I have got idiots and muppets replying saying I am a peddler for a money making scheme.these idiots or armchair warriors should really read the topic before they jump in head first,no matter what site you join there is always idiots like these try their best to ruin a breeding program,if truth be known these muppets probably don't even own a pair of wellies,si I think its best I don't share any more information about my breeding program on this web site ,i am going to delete my profile and sadly move on away from idiots which most site carry like a thorn in your butt. for those members that emailed me i will keep in touch on my breeding program and will keep you updated, take care lads it was nice knowing you. Kin el, you sound a tad fragile to be calling me names ffs, good luck fella Quote Link to post
budgie123 163 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 A lot of people putting strong words on here seem to missing the point here that this lad may have located a pure Bedlington Stud dog which is possibly related to dogs from one of the best working strains there has ever been. Producing a litter of first cross Bedlington's out of such a dog if it is genuine it is virtually guaranteed they will be workers. The variables when producing 1st Crosses are so few and every dog I have seen which is genuine first cross will be about 22 inch to the shoulder bitches possibly a little smaller and like peas in a pod. Will they all work big quarry no because that's where the variable comes in in respect to the type of Bedlington used but they will work rabbits. Variations in coat quality come through from the Bedlington. In respect all the talk about breeding worker to worker this gives no guarantee. It may increase the chances of having a decent dog but from personal experience is no guarantee.In respect to some breeding's the melting pot of breeds thrown in throws up far too many variables within any litter. When you look on sites such a pre loved my heart sinks with the number of lurchers being sold I doubt if pups from the breeding being proposed will end up on such a site irrespective of the negative input being posted. Have a good and injury free season everyone. 3 Quote Link to post
fred90 3,260 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 breeding isn't everything, you can get the best bred dog you possibly can but the rest is down to the owner, basic training entering etc. as most will know you can't just expect it to happen because the dog is so well bred. 3 Quote Link to post
Blackmag 6,102 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 No lining how ever the stud is bred is guaranteed to produce whether that's lurchers or terriers or any working dog for that matter not every good dog can produce and most don't reproduce as good as themselves 3 Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,462 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Dbod said: Sadly lads I posted a topic on here looking for information on the Bedlington terrier x greyhound,i got great feedback till today ,so far I have got idiots and muppets replying saying I am a peddler for a money making scheme.these idiots or armchair warriors should really read the topic before they jump in head first,no matter what site you join there is always idiots like these try their best to ruin a breeding program,if truth be known these muppets probably don't even own a pair of wellies,si I think its best I don't share any more information about my breeding program on this web site ,i am going to delete my profile and sadly move on away from idiots which most site carry like a thorn in your butt. for those members that emailed me i will keep in touch on my breeding program and will keep you updated, take care lads it was nice knowing you. You came on saying you had dogs for a short time and after a 40 year break you'd got a collie grey pup. A little while later you said you had a working sal whip grey and now your planning a breeding program based on a dogs you don't know the basics about. Maybe folk smell something.... 4 2 Quote Link to post
Marvel 469 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 hours ago, budgie123 said: A lot of people putting strong words on here seem to missing the point here that this lad may have located a pure Bedlington Stud dog which is possibly related to dogs from one of the best working strains there has ever been. Producing a litter of first cross Bedlington's out of such a dog if it is genuine it is virtually guaranteed they will be workers. The variables when producing 1st Crosses are so few and every dog I have seen which is genuine first cross will be about 22 inch to the shoulder bitches possibly a little smaller and like peas in a pod. Will they all work big quarry no because that's where the variable comes in in respect to the type of Bedlington used but they will work rabbits. Variations in coat quality come through from the Bedlington. In respect all the talk about breeding worker to worker this gives no guarantee. It may increase the chances of having a decent dog but from personal experience is no guarantee.In respect to some breeding's the melting pot of breeds thrown in throws up far too many variables within any litter. When you look on sites such a pre loved my heart sinks with the number of lurchers being sold I doubt if pups from the breeding being proposed will end up on such a site irrespective of the negative input being posted. Have a good and injury free season everyone. who currently has all or some rillington in there line of bedlingtons budgie 123. Quote Link to post
Marvel 469 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 13/09/2019 at 18:50, budgie123 said: Neil Beacon from Staffs no longer breeds Bedlington Crosses he got into trouble with his local council and there was some bad press on here about dogs. I can only speak for what I saw when my mate got his dog. The Bedlington stud dog was a superb stamp strong and an excellent coat. The litter I saw were superb well cared for and a credit to the man. Like already said the dog my mate has is as good a first cross as I have ever seen robust and a coat I have not seen on any other first cross. Nobody seems to know where the bedlingtons went but they were genuine rillington bred. The most important issue in this breed is the Bedlington and the versatility, toughness and tractability make them such a versatile cross. Another issue when you live around other people is having a dog which kennels well. The first one I had lived to 13 and 1/2 and I never in all them years heard him bark and my current one is 5 this year and I have never heard him bark and my mates have been all the same. was he from channock chase budgie and did he not have parvo through his kennel, I think there was a bit of bad press on this site about him, he had two droopys maldinie greyhound bitches he bred out of, I remember someone saying they weren't up to much, if anybody can add to that or correct me that would be great, cheers 1 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,694 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, Marvel said: was he from channock chase budgie and did he not have parvo through his kennel, I think there was a bit of bad press on this site about him, he had two droopys maldinie greyhound bitches he bred out of, I remember someone saying they weren't up to much, if anybody can add to that or correct me that would be great, cheers Yeah if it’s one I’m thinking of I nearly enquired about some mixed bred terriers on pets4 homes 3 year go , had few tattoos and gold ? 1 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,694 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 If sires guaranteed workers there would be no shite greyhounds /coursing dogs or failed terriers ffs 5 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Marvel said: was he from channock chase budgie and did he not have parvo through his kennel, I think there was a bit of bad press on this site about him, he had two droopys maldinie greyhound bitches he bred out of, I remember someone saying they weren't up to much, if anybody can add to that or correct me that would be great, cheers 2 pups were given to lads one had pavro the other died with worms one of the boys came upnto bob and hw gifted him a pup to be fair i thi k niel returned there money after a bit hassle there is a thread about it on here 1 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,130 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 I think it's ok if he gets a good Bedlington stud and a decent grey bitch but if he wants a good line he will have to keep a good few pups back each generation and pick the best of the best workers and only breed from them.I hope he's young cause its a long road and he will make f--- all money from it. 1 Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Marvel said: was he from channock chase budgie and did he not have parvo through his kennel, I think there was a bit of bad press on this site about him, he had two droopys maldinie greyhound bitches he bred out of, I remember someone saying they weren't up to much, if anybody can add to that or correct me that would be great, cheers I know where two of the Bedlington went. Lol. My mate got em and bred em on straight beddie and there's beddy whippets bred down from em up here. Atb bill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, billhardy said: I know where two of the Bedlington went. Lol. My mate got em and bred em on straight beddie and there's beddy whippets bred down from em up here. Atb bill I also have a family member with a bitch around maybe five yrs old beddie xs grey how she made I don't k ow think. She made around twrnt one. Atb bill Quote Link to post
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