Retrieve training

[trigger2 3,145]

Just out of interest I was wondering how people like to go about retrieve training with there dogs and if anybody’s opinion there is one method that’s easy with great results.

i am manly a lamper and I prefer to train my dogs out in the field  of a night in the real situation when they start catching. I do very little if any retrieve work at all with them during daylight hours. I do occasionally give them a rabbit skin with the head still attached to mouth and play with for a couple of minutes just to get them used to fur in there mouths. 

[Saltmoon 2,208]

Got mine doing it the house with tennis balls first then it's a game for them. Go out in to the open I normally let them have a mooch about first new smells and all that then tennis ball comes out but after they have that down I go out with lamp and dummy and get them doing the job on that it's all a grate game for the dog I try and make it as fun for the dog as I can so it's not like boring training. That's the just of how I done it with my dog. (Along with where the fcuk is he off to now with that ball) 

[Elchapo 3,167]

Pretty much every dog I’ve had will retrieve and I do the same thing with every pup , take the pup out on it’s own when it’s still at the stage where it stays close to you , I normaly use a load of old socks rammed in to eachother the wrap a skin round it and cable tie it on , take the pup out somewhere where it’s not going get distracted and do couple little retrieves and praise them massively , I normaly make that big a fuss of them and talk in stupid voice give them a belly rub , do that couple times each walk and it seems to ingrain in them , then one ever there around 5 /6 months I just chuck it out for them on walks and when they return a quick stroke and a pat on the head will do I’ve done that with all my pups and all them retrieved to hand 

[trigger2 3,145]

38 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Can’t be that hard my kids teach it to all our dogs

You may say that katchum  but I’ve seen Plenty of dogs that don’t retrieve. 

[Black neck 16,041]

6 minutes ago, trigger2 said:

You may say that katchum  but I’ve seen Plenty of dogs that don’t retrieve. 

[billhardy 2,342]

 Trigg some types just naturals don't really need any training ,but fa me training bits for early retrieving soon has welps settled in just bits here and there at first by twelve weeks it's a game they look foreward two having them pestering you fa the fetch retrieve his yas knowing that yas getting on the righ track.use anything old piece cloth tied in nots or towel one I use ping pong ball light gentle on there mouth floats in a few inches of water just a early introduction I want and need a jukel retrieve from cold winter water ducks birds etc,one needs ta start early spring welp  gives ya the warm maths fa training down by the river ,e catching co is etc don't need ta be full on nights etc,a polished jukel his allways a far better jukel ta work with  I see it like this a jukel trained with some time in it his a far better animal ,all the condos etc can come when the jukel ready and fame they ready when they got some teaming time and effort put in them ,it was general ta do at one time .its only modern times one breeds fa certain traits lots a the old school keepers want something more they can work with.fa me lots modern keepers won't go amiss with a hound of hound ta hound xs grey whippet sal grey etc etc lots don't need any type herding dog etc in there runners .whybhave it there if it's not utilised .retrieving a young welp his such an easy task I believe lots don't bother ta be fair getting fur in there mouth his has you say skin round a plastic pop,bottle etc I prefer ta use spaniel dummy's tha float when getting some size ,I believe this if one needs a edible   Type jukel retrieving his essential . Blind retrieves hiding etc stay blind retrieves all simple that can be used in the field when all the training comes together it's a great achievement small jump retrieves twelve weeks over a small hurdle clear through obstacles  ,it's just a vew of what's ta come when in the field of work later on a valued jukel one trains to a degree of what one wants and needs far out shines just a runner, Trigg  perhaps it's just me but I thought it was normal ta but some training etc in ta ones jukel bit of general  ta do stopping staying etc holding on stopping leave etc having control, off the jukel lots of effort and hard work but lots of early behaviour etc round food etc mostly can be done in the back yard jaz wa trained to stoop start on command by maybey few maths this was and came in use when other jukels working in tandem maybey few yards              away she won't run in or run another jukels coney trained not two, all makes for a better day night out cans be doing fa this free fa all business lol  making a single handed type his worlds apart from the pack type mentality one do often sees these days.hope this gives a view of some of my early methods ,trading and advanced then becomes every day of the working dogs life  putting in those early methods show them sells later  putting all and everything in two a jukel can be time consuming but this his th fa  what's to become when the catching of game his up,on them a good foundation will show itself.  

[Black neck 16,041]

3 minutes ago, billhardy said:

 Trigg some types just naturals don't really need any training ,but fa me training bits for early retrieving soon has welps settled in just bits here and there at first by twelve weeks it's a game they look foreward two having them pestering you fa the fetch retrieve his yas knowing that yas getting on the righ track.use anything old piece cloth tied in nots or towel one I use ping pong ball light gentle on there mouth floats in a few inches of water just a early introduction I want and need a jukel retrieve from cold winter water ducks birds etc,one needs ta start early spring welp  gives ya the warm maths fa training down by the river ,e catching co is etc don't need ta be full on nights etc,a polished jukel his allways a far better jukel ta work with  I see it like this a jukel trained with some time in it his a far better animal ,all the condos etc can come when the jukel ready and fame they ready when they got some teaming time and effort put in them ,it was general ta do at one time .its only modern times one breeds fa certain traits lots a the old school keepers want something more they can work with.fa me lots modern keepers won't go amiss with a hound of hound ta hound xs grey whippet sal grey etc etc lots don't need any type herding dog etc in there runners .whybhave it there if it's not utilised .retrieving a young welp his such an easy task I believe lots don't bother ta be fair getting fur in there mouth his has you say skin round a plastic pop,bottle etc I prefer ta use spaniel dummy's tha float when getting some size ,I believe this if one needs a edible   Type jukel retrieving his essential . Blind retrieves hiding etc stay blind retrieves all simple that can be used in the field when all the training comes together it's a great achievement small jump retrieves twelve weeks over a small hurdle clear through obstacles  ,it's just a vew of what's ta come when in the field of work later on a valued jukel one trains to a degree of what one wants and needs far out shines just a runner, Trigg  perhaps it's just me but I thought it was normal ta but some training etc in ta ones jukel bit of general  ta do stopping staying etc holding on stopping leave etc having control, off the jukel lots of effort and hard work but lots of early behaviour etc round food etc mostly can be done in the back yard jaz wa trained to stoop start on command by maybey few maths this was and came in use when other jukels working in tandem maybey few yards              away she won't run in or run another jukels coney trained not two, all makes for a better day night out cans be doing fa this free fa all business lol  making a single handed type his worlds apart from the pack type mentality one do often sees these days.hope this gives a view of some of my early methods ,trading and advanced then becomes every day of the working dogs life  putting in those early methods show them sells later  putting all and everything in two a jukel can be time consuming but this his th fa  what's to become when the catching of game his up,on them a good foundation will show itself.  

Can u run that by me again in more detail pls

[billhardy 2,342]

14 minutes ago, trigger2 said:

You may say that katchum  but I’ve seen Plenty of dogs that don’t retrieve. 

Ya right Trigg there's lots that don't that would have fact ,in the true light of sence of things a jukel had time put in to it has a young well  can make up fa other deficenceys,a none retriever his a ball ache ,what's his a retrieve fa me it needs to be presented to the handler mostly ought will run back a lamper in the dark this ain't  a retrieve in the true sence of the meaning.atb bill

[billhardy 2,342]

4 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Can u run that by me again in more detail pls

Fecking hell black is trustyou  if yas Cana understand that well  we in a different has they say time atb bill

[Black neck 16,041]

55 minutes ago, billhardy said:

Fecking hell black is trustyou  if yas Cana understand that well  we in a different has they say time atb bill

Thanks bill I got it now

[stormyboy 1,352]

1 hour ago, billhardy said:

 Trigg some types just naturals don't really need any training ,but fa me training bits for early retrieving soon has welps settled in just bits here and there at first by twelve weeks it's a game they look foreward two having them pestering you fa the fetch retrieve his yas knowing that yas getting on the righ track.use anything old piece cloth tied in nots or towel one I use ping pong ball light gentle on there mouth floats in a few inches of water just a early introduction I want and need a jukel retrieve from cold winter water ducks birds etc,one needs ta start early spring welp  gives ya the warm maths fa training down by the river ,e catching co is etc don't need ta be full on nights etc,a polished jukel his allways a far better jukel ta work with  I see it like this a jukel trained with some time in it his a far better animal ,all the condos etc can come when the jukel ready and fame they ready when they got some teaming time and effort put in them ,it was general ta do at one time .its only modern times one breeds fa certain traits lots a the old school keepers want something more they can work with.fa me lots modern keepers won't go amiss with a hound of hound ta hound xs grey whippet sal grey etc etc lots don't need any type herding dog etc in there runners .whybhave it there if it's not utilised .retrieving a young welp his such an easy task I believe lots don't bother ta be fair getting fur in there mouth his has you say skin round a plastic pop,bottle etc I prefer ta use spaniel dummy's tha float when getting some size ,I believe this if one needs a edible   Type jukel retrieving his essential . Blind retrieves hiding etc stay blind retrieves all simple that can be used in the field when all the training comes together it's a great achievement small jump retrieves twelve weeks over a small hurdle clear through obstacles  ,it's just a vew of what's ta come when in the field of work later on a valued jukel one trains to a degree of what one wants and needs far out shines just a runner, Trigg  perhaps it's just me but I thought it was normal ta but some training etc in ta ones jukel bit of general  ta do stopping staying etc holding on stopping leave etc having control, off the jukel lots of effort and hard work but lots of early behaviour etc round food etc mostly can be done in the back yard jaz wa trained to stoop start on command by maybey few maths this was and came in use when other jukels working in tandem maybey few yards              away she won't run in or run another jukels coney trained not two, all makes for a better day night out cans be doing fa this free fa all business lol  making a single handed type his worlds apart from the pack type mentality one do often sees these days.hope this gives a view of some of my early methods ,trading and advanced then becomes every day of the working dogs life  putting in those early methods show them sells later  putting all and everything in two a jukel can be time consuming but this his th fa  what's to become when the catching of game his up,on them a good foundation will show itself.  

[stormyboy 1,352]

There's a lot of 'hope for the best' in lurcher training generally...

[billhardy 2,342]

6 hours ago, stormyboy said:

There's a lot of 'hope for the best' in lurcher training generally...

I've heard that before round these areas they call it Bob hope nothing but banter,when there's hope there's hope when there's no hope jobs flecked atb bill

[Blackmag 6,102]

9 hours ago, trigger2 said:

You may say that katchum  but I’ve seen Plenty of dogs that don’t retrieve. 

Seen a few that retrieve no problem but as soon as another dog is close by forget it maybe a jealous thing 

[trigger2 3,145]

7 hours ago, Blackmag said:

Seen a few that retrieve no problem but as soon as another dog is close by forget it maybe a jealous thing 

I think you are right A second dog in the picture does tend to have that effect mate. I’ve seen dogs that will retrieve balls, dummies when out in the garden or field but once they have got a rabbit then all retrieve training goes out the window.