COPPER DRAGGED TO DEATH

[dogmandont 9,833]

1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

The level of armed response should be increased 

im not sure of policy however I’d imagine the met will have some form of escalation bubble in effect 

eg for every weapon in public handling incident an armed response officer will surely not be too far behind 

but for every copper to be armed , is just ludicrous 

Why? It works here why would it not work in other parts of the uk? 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,955]

Just now, dogmandont said:

Why? It works here why would it not work in other parts of the uk? 

Because the requirement to be armed is a very very dangerous thing 

to couple into another thread on here 

the insertion of a firearm being present escalates any situation 

I guarantee that within a month we would have instances of coppers having weapons taken from them in a brawl and used against them

firearms should never become the norm , they should be an escalation 

 

[king 11,972]

5 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

Why? It works here why would it not work in other parts of the uk? 

You in Ireland dmd.so every single police officer is armed in Ireland 

[Jobi 387]

3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Because the requirement to be armed is a very very dangerous thing 

to couple into another thread on here 

the insertion of a firearm being present escalates any situation 

I guarantee that within a month we would have instances of coppers having weapons taken from them in a brawl and used against them

firearms should never become the norm , they should be an escalation 

 

Yes and these feral individuals are armed and very dangerous, the only time they will give respect is when they're in fear themselves. 

You don't see many instances in America of cops having their guns taken off them and used against them. 

Edited August 17, 2019 by Jobi

[dogmandont 9,833]

7 minutes ago, king said:

You in Ireland dmd.so every single police officer is armed in Ireland 

Northern Ireland. And they’re all armed. 

[king 11,972]

Just now, dogmandont said:

Northern Ireland. And they’re all armed. 

Well I never knew that.

Do you think it deters folk with the police being armed..

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,955]

You don’t also get many instances in America of the habitual violence you see every Saturday in any uk town 

 

[dogmandont 9,833]

12 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Because the requirement to be armed is a very very dangerous thing 

to couple into another thread on here 

the insertion of a firearm being present escalates any situation 

I guarantee that within a month we would have instances of coppers having weapons taken from them in a brawl and used against them

firearms should never become the norm , they should be an escalation 

 

Still don’t get it, the police here were armed because of a terrorist threat which has decreased in the last 20 years whereas the threat on the mainland has gotten significantly higher in the last 20 years along with knife crimes and violence in general and still they aren’t armed. I guess it comes down to what your used to as people here have never known anything else. 

[Jobi 387]

3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

You don’t also get many instances in America of the habitual violence you see every Saturday in any uk town 

 

You don't think being fearless of any consequences has anything to do with that? I doubt they'd be so carefree and violent when they know the police are armed with guns. 

Edited August 17, 2019 by Jobi

[WILF 46,900]

1 minute ago, dogmandont said:

Still don’t get it, the police here were armed because of a terrorist threat which has decreased in the last 20 years whereas the threat on the mainland has gotten significantly higher in the last 20 years along with knife crimes and violence in general and still they aren’t armed. I guess it comes down to what your used to as people here have never known anything else. 

Would you agree that the PSNI has changed a lot since the mid 90s ?

I see more a move towards the gender inclusive, mainland face of policing where as back in the 90s those coppers all seemed to be big old units that you didn’t f**k about with......they sort of looked capable of being armed if you get my drift.

Some of these f***ing nerds in the mainland UK these days shouldn’t be trusted with a pencil.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,955]

Coppers and dog wardens weren’t being false called away to remote locations and being slotted by cowardly paramilitaries either 

arming coppers sounds great on paper . 

In reality it’s a disaster 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,955]

2 minutes ago, Jobi said:

You don't think being fearless of any consequences has anything to do with that? I doubt they'd be so carefree and violent when they know the police are armed with guns. 

Without being a know all , do you understand what you’d have to do to justify an armed intervention?

Fromvthe army  or the police ? 

 

[WILF 46,900]

Take my daughter, she could easily fit into the military because she has the right kind of mindset but she could never be a cozzer........she couldn’t stomach being around such people.

 

[MickC 1,825]

7 hours ago, king said:

I'm quite sure the amount of stabbings.

And random violence.

Is a result of the smacking ban which came into force in 2004 

I maybe wrong.

But I don't think the violence seen today was the same in say the late 90s 

You listen to the old men of today saying about the local Bobby giving you a good slap when they were kids.

It did seem to have an effect.

 

Your probably onto something there tbh mate. I watched a documentary about the London riots and one of the main findings was there was no discipline in the home and so the kids just ran wild and took this attitude into older age with them.Same as the kids at school now with no fear/respect of authority,school was a good laugh and we all got up to capers but nobody looked forward to the cane,especially in front of the whole class . 

Edited August 17, 2019 by MickC

[Jobi 387]

Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Without being a know all , do you understand what you’d have to do to justify an armed intervention?

Fromvthe army  or the police ? 

 

I'm sure it won't ever be implemented, like I said earlier the manchester bombing proved we haven't got the backbone to do anything at all. We've just got to accept stabbings and such are part and parcel of living in a city.