Why has Hancock no pups for sale?

[Aussie Whip 4,097]

1 hour ago, Phil Lloyd said:

The old bloke that taught me ferreting as a kid had a dog the image of this,it was a straight cross red cattle/greyhound.

[shaaark 10,751]

57 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said:

I read an interesting article the other day about a famous line of Kelpies.Most believe dingo blood was a given in this breed but DNA showed no native dog blood at all in their history.I'm sure it would have found its way into some lines though, through accidental/sneaky matings.

Read the same article myself. And they're called kelpies cos that was the name of one these collie type's dam . I've read a few of these articles the last few months, very interesting info

Edited August 20, 2019 by shaaark

[poxon 5,732]

Just googled this 

[shaaark 10,751]

52 minutes ago, poxon said:

Just googled this 

Wasn't there some mastiff blood in the original kelpie bitch? Those old scottish shepherds were keen on adding it for extra drve, so I've been told  

Edited August 20, 2019 by shaaark

[poxon 5,732]

17 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Wasn't there some mastiff blood in the original kelpie bitch? Those old scottish shepherds were keen on adding it for extra drve, so I've been told  

Ain’t got a clue mate 

[darbo 4,774]

 

[darbo 4,774]

 

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

3 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:

The old bloke that taught me ferreting as a kid had a dog the image of this,it was a straight cross red cattle/greyhound.

You are spot on there, Aussie Whip

I've used, all sorts of lurchers, for all sorts of quarry

However, back in the late 80s,...I went full-time, on the rabbit catching job.

I found that an amalgam, of running dog and herding dog, seemed to fit in nicely, with the daily workload...

 

 

[billhardy 2,342]

33 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Wasn't there some mastiff blood in the original kelpie bitch? Those old scottish shepherds were keen on adding it for extra drve, so I've been told  

If they were curs bred like some say that the early. Minshaws devoped from curs that's very probable lol but hey the ausies done a better job with the collie from these Isles they sele Ted fa tougher hardier sharper type not fecking eye eye eye atb bill

[shaaark 10,751]

4 minutes ago, billhardy said:

If they were curs bred like some say that the early. Minshaws devoped from curs that's very probable lol but hey the ausies done a better job with the collie from these Isles they sele Ted fa tougher hardier sharper type not fecking eye eye eye atb bill

Early minshaws were just mongrel lurcher, for want of a better term, bred to mongrel lurcher, with the odd collie/grey bred in weren't they? Don't think there'd be any mastiff in there though. Bull/grey yes, but not mastiff

[shaaark 10,751]

45 minutes ago, poxon said:

Ain’t got a clue mate 

Was just being a tad contentios mate, in a jocular fashion lol

[billhardy 2,342]

22 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Early minshaws were just mongrel lurcher, for want of a better term, bred to mongrel lurcher, with the odd collie/grey bred in weren't they? Don't think there'd be any mastiff in there though. Bull/grey yes, but not mastiff

The early minshaws were supposedly cur bred ancestry Hill collies with a touch I gf something else but that was probably just heresy atb bill

[billhardy 2,342]

So the kelpie has the s a me or siliar ancestry has the cattle dog just another branch from the s as me tree atb bill

[poxon 5,732]

20 minutes ago, billhardy said:

So the kelpie has the s a me or siliar ancestry has the cattle dog just another branch from the s as me tree atb bill

No the kelpie was first with what I can make out using English collies sent to Australia the Australians developed the cattle dog later on using herding drovers probably kelpie/collie to natives to get them the direction they need to go in but I recon there’s got to be a farmer out there that thought feck this 2 dogs for developed for different jobs an let his cattle dog service his kelpie collie An sold the surplus off as straight kelpies your probably right bill there probably linked somewhere an branch off 

[shaaark 10,751]

33 minutes ago, billhardy said:

So the kelpie has the s a me or siliar ancestry has the cattle dog just another branch from the s as me tree atb bill

 kin el bill, you've just consigned me to some more herding dog information work! Lol good job I have an interest in pastoral type dogs lol