Elchapo 3,166 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, peterhunter86 said: Gaz only wanted a busher, he gifted her to a gamekeeper in Wales if my memory serves me right because she kept going to ground The lad who he gave it too got rid 1 Quote Link to post
Dbod 58 Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Years ago lads I read about them in hunting mags,the Plummer terrier,bred by Brian plummer he was a lurcher and terrier man that got his claim to fame by living in the outback of the country in the UK and rearing a collie x greyhound [collie being the dam of the pup and greyhound being the sire],merle I think it was called,slow to start but a demon when he got started so I read, the plummer terrier I seen were good ratting terriers and bushing terriers,never seen one that would stay under ground for very long,but every dog is different,dont see many at the game fairs these days. 3 Quote Link to post
lurcherlad92 24 Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Here's my lad. Not strictly a plummer, he's half pat. Superb busher if there's something in a bit of cover and he scents it he'll get it moving. Not really a proper earth dog but he will drop down occasionally. Use him to flush to my rapidly useless lurchers Cheers 10 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Got my dog flying at the monent loves the catapult allways seems to catch sommat in cover time will tell if hes gonna stay but more hes out better he gets. More of a line hunter than most terriers i seen. 2 Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 20 hours ago, C.green said: Got my dog flying at the monent loves the catapult allways seems to catch sommat in cover time will tell if hes gonna stay but more hes out better he gets. More of a line hunter than most terriers i seen. The hound blood shows in a lot of them. Mine would bay on a line, great fun hunting cover. Nobody told mine they don't stay to ground either, they did. Some would kill below too. 11 Quote Link to post
fireman 10,869 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Some plummer x beagle pups on one of the face book plummer pages,look chunky healthy pups and the breeder is keeping a couple for himself.. Quote Link to post
Dbod 58 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 19 hours ago, stormyboy said: The hound blood shows in a lot of them. Mine would bay on a line, great fun hunting cover. Nobody told mine they don't stay to ground either, they did. Some would kill below too. Stormboy that's some good looking terrier you have there,is that a bit of a top lip missing,?? 1 Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 He was a big fan. Uh huh thankyeverymuch. 2 Quote Link to post
tatsblisters 9,485 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 Did these plummer terriers originate from the rough haired terriers he brought from wales when he came to Rotherham teaching in the late 60s early 70s.?? Quote Link to post
bunnyboiler 1,052 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 hours ago, fireman said: Some plummer x beagle pups on one of the face book plummer pages,look chunky healthy pups and the breeder is keeping a couple for himself.. Do they come with GPS Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted August 24, 2019 Report Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, baker boy said: Thats what he said mate He said a lot of things... 1 1 2 Quote Link to post
eastcoast 4,115 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Has the type that existed before been improved? A genuine question. I did not know D B Plummer and have no axe to grind. Some say he developed this type on an ego trip wanting fame and a sort of immortality. But some of it makes sense. As much as I know is that the type originated from existing working Russell types that were found lacking in nose and courage. Beagle was introduced to improve nose and fighting dog for courage. Some Russells can hunt like Beagles. If a certain line was lacking in that department outcross to a terrier line that has nose or do not continue the line. Why go to the extremes of using hound blood and risk losing everything else? Bull blood. Again, there were Russell types that were not lacking. Why continue a terrier line that was lacking in such a fundamental? So I have answered my own questions. But not really. I have not caught rats in large numbers. To me double figures is a good day. And that was the reason these Plummer terriers were developed for? Catching and killing hundreds, that some people do. Has anyone used conventional working terriers AND Plummer terriers for this work and found the former lacking and the latter superior due to the outcross blood? 3 Quote Link to post
fireman 10,869 Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, eastcoast said: Has the type that existed before been improved? A genuine question. I did not know D B Plummer and have no axe to grind. Some say he developed this type on an ego trip wanting fame and a sort of immortality. But some of it makes sense. As much as I know is that the type originated from existing working Russell types that were found lacking in nose and courage. Beagle was introduced to improve nose and fighting dog for courage. Some Russells can hunt like Beagles. If a certain line was lacking in that department outcross to a terrier line that has nose or do not continue the line. Why go to the extremes of using hound blood and risk losing everything else? Bull blood. Again, there were Russell types that were not lacking. Why continue a terrier line that was lacking in such a fundamental? So I have answered my own questions. But not really. I have not caught rats in large numbers. To me double figures is a good day. And that was the reason these Plummer terriers were developed for? Catching and killing hundreds, that some people do. Has anyone used conventional working terriers AND Plummer terriers for this work and found the former lacking and the latter superior due to the outcross blood? He had russell's already and used a beagle that was ment to have done some work,the bull (what the feck is a fighting dog ffs?) was added for jaw strength and bone,further russell and Nuttal's blood was added to sort of even out the size issues.Comparing them against other types is a bit suss but iv'e not seen any other type come close to them working in a pack or at the ratting game.My old bitch is the best ratting dog i have ver seen although she's past it now but she just had a nack of finding them when other types didn't and the way she'd mark them and catch them she was always ahead of others...I have russell's i work these days and don't do anything as much ratting as i used to but i do have a young russell here who i recon would make a half decent ratter,but she's a first season of digging to do first before i get to ratting the covers again. 1 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted August 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 I think ratting is abit like ferreting most types will pick it up to a standard if used enough. Another thing about these ive found is money and names on paper are top priority with most not trying to produce little allround workers. 1 Quote Link to post
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