FAC conversion dilemma

[philpot 5,037]

My rfd in Scunthorpe quite often has s/h fac air rifles in stock and has an HW100 at the moment although I would totally agree with the comments above regarding the HW not being very good in fac. If you buy a bottle gun you will get a decent shot count, my old Rapid .22 ,28fpe returned approx 55 shots per fill and my Impact .25, 47fpe does around 95 shots per fill.

The range you are talking about is well within the sub 12 power range, I am able to take rabbits in excess of 100mts with my Impact although I don't do so very often (knackered eyes) but an fac is a great middle range gun but I also use mine for close up work as well as it is my 'go to' gun.

Phil

 

[Eradic8r 2]

  On 23/07/2019 at 14:52, philpot said:

My rfd in Scunthorpe quite often has s/h fac air rifles in stock and has an HW100 at the moment although I would totally agree with the comments above regarding the HW not being very good in fac. If you buy a bottle gun you will get a decent shot count, my old Rapid .22 ,28fpe returned approx 55 shots per fill and my Impact .25, 47fpe does around 95 shots per fill.

The range you are talking about is well within the sub 12 power range, I am able to take rabbits in excess of 100mts with my Impact although I don't do so very often (knackered eyes) but an fac is a great middle range gun but I also use mine for close up work as well as it is my 'go to' gun.

Phil

 

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Yes I was talking about bottle gun. Maybe up to 50m so would you think I should go up a calibre to .25 to stabilise?

[vizlauk 1,568]

.22 or .25 either will be more than enough, .22 running anywhere from 12 _ 32 or even sub 12 for the distance you've mentioned.

[tomburras 2,730]

  On 23/07/2019 at 14:41, Eradic8r said:

Totally agree with you atvbjimmy I'm keeping hw sub 12. Budget is a bit limited, anyone had experience of Falcon FAC?

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No but I'd have one and used to know a guy with one who loved it. His was a single shot in .22 I think he had it at 24 ft lbs and swore by it I dunno on shot count tho it was a while ago. 

[Daniel cain 46,342]

  On 23/07/2019 at 18:09, tomburras said:

No but I'd have one and used to know a guy with one who loved it. His was a single shot in .22 I think he had it at 24 ft lbs and swore by it I dunno on shot count tho it was a while ago. 

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30/35 shots ,and they leak like f**k

[Eradic8r 2]

Thanks for all info guys I'm going to think this one out and get back to you with some pics of the result of my questions. Bear with my posts in mean time, I'm unsure of the layout and protocol on this forums. Fantastic so far.

Regards Alan

[villaman 9,982]

If you only shooting at 50 m , then a good sub12 .177 will do the job , like your HW100 . I shoot often at 60 yard with sub12 HW100k and tuned BSA Ultra , both .177

[Eradic8r 2]

As a professional pest controller I've never been convinced of the knock down power of .177. I know I know I've opened the can of worms again but that's just me. No-one would snipe with a 50 cal if a 338 Lap Mag was better. Hey it's a free country lol

[Phill-W68 547]

Seems strange in thinking you need an FAC rifle to take rabbits out to 50yds, my hw100 .177 is chucking out jsb heavies (10.34gr) at 11.5fpe, and at 50yds they pass through on a head shot, even that sometimes feels like overkill...but everyone to their own I suppose...,Good luck mate with whichever path you take....

[vizlauk 1,568]

  On 23/07/2019 at 20:34, Eradic8r said:

As a professional pest controller I've never been convinced of the knock down power of .177. I know I know I've opened the can of worms again but that's just me. No-one would snipe with a 50 cal if a 338 Lap Mag was better. Hey it's a free country lol

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Don't take this as a insult but your knowledge is very low on the capabilities of a air rifle in either sub 12 or fac levels in any calibre, if as you have stated you are a professional pest controller,  what have you actually used in the past to carry out your duties in such a role, or is this whole thread on the forum a wind up.

[Eradic8r 2]

Well thank you all for my introduction to THL. I am not winding anyone up. I posted some genuine questions including my inexperience to FAC air weapons. I thought that the whole idea of a forum was to exchange knowledge without this kind of elitist judgement.

Excuse me and my career for my failings!

[vizlauk 1,568]

  On 23/07/2019 at 22:21, Eradic8r said:

Well thank you all for my introduction to THL. I am not winding anyone up. I posted some genuine questions including my inexperience to FAC air weapons. I thought that the whole idea of a forum was to exchange knowledge without this kind of elitist judgement.

Excuse me and my career for my failings!

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As I have asked,  what have you being using in your career as a pest controller? What distances are you used to shooting at ?

 

[Furrosious ferreter 499]

  On 23/07/2019 at 22:04, Phill-W68 said:

Seems strange in thinking you need an FAC rifle to take rabbits out to 50yds, my hw100 .177 is chucking out jsb heavies (10.34gr) at 11.5fpe, and at 50yds they pass through on a head shot, even that sometimes feels like overkill...but everyone to their own I suppose...,Good luck mate with whichever path you take....

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What zero are you at with that?

what magnifacation do you use?

and how many mildots hold over are you?

FF

[Deker 3,478]

  On 23/07/2019 at 14:41, Eradic8r said:

Totally agree with you atvbjimmy I'm keeping hw sub 12. Budget is a bit limited, anyone had experience of Falcon FAC?

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Yes, my .22 FN19 Skeleton is FAC, runs around 26ft lb.

Relatively low shot count by todays standards at 32 before it begins to tail off,  but that does me (and most people) just fine, very accurate and does what I need!

[Eradic8r 2]

I might call back to my RFD and check his Falcon out. I'm hoping to bridge my standard sub 12 and my rimmy as I'm not comfortable hitting bunnies at 50m with low ft/lb. Personal preference and more humane.

Thanks Deker