j j m 6,553 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 on lots of forums not just this one you hear people saying im putting in for my fac,one or 2 tell you they got it but no body ever puts up they never got it and the reason why they never got it,it could help others out before they fill the forms inn Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 When people get refused FACs it's normally because of some skeletons in their closet. Perhaps they don't want to air their dirty laundry in public and I don't blame them. There's plenty of knowledgeable folk on here and other forums just a PM away that would happily give advice. They can only help streamline the process though. No amount of advice will let someone get a FAC if they aren't fit to have one. The only problem for the new guys is weeding out the genuine FAC holders from the dreamers who read too much on google. Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Every police force is different and everybody told me know way I would be allowed a open ticket until after five years, but got a open for fac air straight away and applied for a variation for 17 HMR and . 22lr and that is open as well dont always believe what you read on forums or shitbook 3 Quote Link to post
Gav 1,708 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, walshie said: When people get refused FACs it's normally because of some skeletons in their closet. Perhaps they don't want to air their dirty laundry in public and I don't blame them. There's plenty of knowledgeable folk on here and other forums just a PM away that would happily give advice. They can only help streamline the process though. No amount of advice will let someone get a FAC if they aren't fit to have one. The only problem for the new guys is weeding out the genuine FAC holders from the dreamers who read too much on google. Thats why then, don't keep your skeletons in your closet, bury them where they can't be found like the rest of us! Honestly though I've met plenty of people where I have doubted if they should ever have been issued with an FAC at all. If you have good reason to own a firearm the onus is on the force to prove your not fit to have one, I can see this changing for the worse, as more forces legal or not, are getting us to do the donkey work, and paying through the nose too, medical reports from doctors been the one. I've always been lucky and have the experiance over many years, I think a lot of folk these days don't get the experiance we did in the 70's etc Quote Link to post
The one 8,493 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Some folk should never have a gun far less a fire arm cert they should just get a stick and shout bang 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,806 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 SOME TIMES ITS NOT THE SKELETONS IN THE CLOSET BUT OTHER PEOPLE OR IN MY CASE FAMILY THAT STOPS YOU THATS ALL IV GOT TO SAY ON THE MATTER SO DONT ASK ATVBJIMMY Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 ...and some need a mentor and can't find one! Anyway, as it happens I have been approached today to be a Mentor yet again, this time for a guy who has only applied for a .22LR. I thought TVP had actually done away with mentors, but is seems not! 2 Quote Link to post
j j m 6,553 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 often wondered how hard it was to get it as like I said saw loads of people on different forums saying putting in for my fac then nothing else said,i know my mate lost his after his wife left him and he got put on pills for depression that was enough to revoke his Quote Link to post
Gav 1,708 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, j j m said: often wondered how hard it was to get it as like I said saw loads of people on different forums saying putting in for my fac then nothing else said,i know my mate lost his after his wife left him and he got put on pills for depression that was enough to revoke his A young lad (in his 30's) down the road here is on anti depressants and anti psychotics, he's a .223win and a .22wmr, I really try and keep my distance, he's asked to come out with me but I'm always busy! I've only done variations and renewals over the years and never had any trouble at all. I was in trouble as a teen (just theft and burglary of non dwelling) and its still on my record as a juvenile, a few FEO have questioned why its still on my record, and I don't know? Comes up on any disclosure I do so just declare it, but its never been a bother. Edited July 11, 2019 by Gav Quote Link to post
mackem 27,030 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 My brother has an FAC,he had quite a troubled past as a kid,few spells inside etc.Got a friend with an FAC who has a very colourful past including ramming a plod car once as he tried to escape from a situation,long time ago however. 1 Quote Link to post
j j m 6,553 Posted July 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 like people say different forces deal with it in different ways,i know my mate lost his because his ex was a bitter twa, and made a call saying he was suffering from depression and should not hold a licence they acted on that which is fair enough Quote Link to post
Rimfireboy! 1,463 Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 18 hours ago, villaman said: Every police force is different and everybody told me know way I would be allowed a open ticket until after five years, but got a open for fac air straight away and applied for a variation for 17 HMR and . 22lr and that is open as well dont always believe what you read on forums or shitbook Turned out better than you might have expected then vm. My region new certificates are open for section one shotguns and fac air. Live firing rifles however, closed for the first five years. I’ve been told that Derbyshire don’t like .30 cal airguns....they may all follow the home office guidelines, but that’s all they are, guidelines. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 There is also the distinct possibility that many who say "putting in for my fac" never actually bother, the cost, the cabinet's and filling in forms just puts them off, as well as what has been mentioned above. Quote Link to post
j j m 6,553 Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 your right bud Quote Link to post
PLEDGEY 496 Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 I think how your interview goes with the F.A.O. counts for a lot. If you don't seem very knowledgable he might refuse your requests or limit them. If you seem extremely knowledgable chances are you'll get what you ask for as there is no reason to refuse. 1 Quote Link to post
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