at what age ??

[pockets 0]

Without labouring the point i think youve answered the question 9 months is still a pup how can you say they are ready????

 

Well bred or not a kids a kid whatever book..

[Guest oldskool]

i didnt say they were ready

[Guest tawny]

and kids develope at different ages two.

some are shy,some are not and some are a pain in the arse but like i say watch them and you'll now when they're ready

[pockets 0]

i didnt say they were ready

 

Never said YOU did bloke but the other fella who thinks going to graft with 9 month old pups 'Admittedly he knows they are capable and ready because he said pups muture differently'

 

Im baffled 9months 11 months still a pup to me maybe i missed somthing but and it is a big but i have never seen any young entered dog do any good they all fail for one reason or another someone prove me wrong and as i say i dont doubt there will be the odd exception to the rule but generally entering to young results in failiure..

 

IMO and i dont want a slanging match here reasoned debate will do!

[patterdalepaul 0]

Don't often say much on here but i'll give my personel opinion....

i've got two pups that i'm bringing on at the moment, brother and sister,(not ideal but an tragic loss put me a dog down), the bitch has been ready to go from 61/2 months old if i'd let her! she'll run empty tubes when i let her on occasion,

the dog is'nt so keen but he's a dog and i find their often a bit slower to mature, However every dog is different some seem like mature 2yr olds at 8months and also some are like puppies at 1 yr old,

It's down to you to know when their ready, but waiting a couple of months longer won't ruin any dog, however 1or 2 months to early has ruined many a well bred hopefull, i learned this in the begining the hard way.

Now i like to wait till they're around 14months before letting them really go, they should be mature enough to work their quarry in their own style by this time, but.... not all are, just most.

For me letting them see others being dug to, and seeing/smelling quarry from a fairly young age is very important also.

 

At the end of the day is it worth risking a well bred terrier spewing at young age because of your impatiance?

Good things come to those who wiat.....i.e 6/7 seasons of digging

[DeanD 3]

I've limited experience compared to many of you, but my opinion is that it will depend on the Type of terrier your pup is for one. I too think that entering a terrier to early can ruin it... and letting it have as much as it will handle at any given time will ruin it. I know, I've done it and a price was exacted. Something I used to see posted but rarely do now... WE are the stewards of these terriers... that doesn't mean you take them out hell bent for leather and throw caution to the wind. But suite yourself... to each their own and I hope whatever you do it works for you.

[Guest SHOT]

they do say "Wisdom is knowing how little you know"

[Guest ripstop]

I know a few that enter early and would never except blame when it goes tits up on the day or further down the line, prefering to beleive the dog was found out .

i dont know a great deal but for me regardless of wether you think "that youngun would go now" you hear that all the time... surely your allways going to be better off for giving them time.

ive a couple of pups that will be touching 13 month old at the start of next season all they,ll be seeing is puppy earths in that time and i,ll see how they are in the latter part, just my feeling on it..

But they do say "Wisdom is knowing how little you know"

LIKE I SAID IT WAS A BIG MISTAKE WHEN MINE SELF ENTERED AT APPRX. 9 MONTHS,BUT WITH HAVING HELD THEM BACK TILL NOW AND THEY ARE 21 MONTH, THEY HAVE BEEN ONCE EACH, MIGHT SEE SOMETHING END OF SEASON, BUT THATLL BE IT TILL NEXT SEASON, SO I DONT WANT TO RUSH THINGS, IT MIGHT HAVE READ LIKE THEYVE SEEN A LOT, BUT THIS ISNT THE CASE, ONE EACH, AND THEY WERE BOLTS. IVE HAD PLENTY OF CHANCES TO GIVE THEM A TRY, AND ITS TEMPTING, BUT HAVING THEM FROM 8 WEEKS APPROX. IT WOULD BE NEARLY 2 YEARS WASTED. I WAS TOLD TO ENTER BOTH PUPS AT 9 MONTH OF AGE "YOU SHOULD BE DOING MORE WITH THEM TERRIERS YOURE GONNA WASTE THEM" WAS WHAT I GOT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS, I COULD HAVE LISTENED BUT DIDNT, THE SAME LADS GET RID AT 12-14 MONTHS IF THERE DOGS DONT GO, SO WHO WOULD YOU SAY IS RIGHT ME OR THEM?

[Guest SHOT]

Was,nt a dig at anyone ripstop i hadnt even read your post ,

a fella telling you to start YOUR dogs at 9 month id say you were right to ignore,

however 2 dogs at 21 month old with a dig a peice, season nearly over..id get your finger out.

[stevie g 2005 125]

got to agree with pockets as well u can definately sicken a young dog with to much to early even if it comes from good stuff

[Guest SHOT]

i may sound stupid mate but you can tell the workers at as young as four months old.

Can i make an appoinment with you for next week good thread.

[Guest proudy]

Whilst they may indeed enter before their first birthday how many Terriers get sickend by entering to early????

 

I would say many a promising Terrier has been ruined by entering to early they do not posses the mental ability to back off generally and for the fist couple of digs youve got yourselves a real tasmanian devil....Then it all goes wonky and the animal gives up all before 12 months thereby ruining a potentially good Terrier

 

JMO

i may sound stupid mate but you can tell the workers at as young as four months old.

and there dont seem to be no tasmanian devil in them,just quiet relaxed pups ?.

they realy do make the workers.

born to work,not taught,like some ?

born workers dont jack either,taught dogs do ?

I wish it was that easy to spot workers at 4 months, some litters I've seen fight like animals at 8wks but does that mean they'll turn out shite because they're not docile?

[TOPPER 1,809]

some enter at avery young age i know a chap who will work a dog flat out from 5 month but they rarely last a second season my veiw for what its worth is let them watch and learn from 7-10 months then bring them on steady by 16 months they should be well on there way; never force the dog just let them go at there pace ive had one start at 5.5 months and is still flyin i tryed holding him back and he just goes nuts hes still only young now 2yr but as hard as nails i dont think he will live to be an old dog but time will tell. i also have a lakie that was spiolt by the previos owner enterd to early but after a lay up ive got him going well and he uses his brain some should last for a few years yet , its horses for courses but i do go with let them mature before they see any hard labour

[dev 227]

this is the hardest question all terrier men have to ask themselves,what age? answer,dont know!! nobody really does,each dog is different,it is very hard to keep a young dog back if they are mad to go but we should. i have a few youngsters at the monant,one started like a steam train at 10 months,no regard for herself and no respect for her quarry,the other was the cautious type eager but not quite sure. the first one now is starting to show signs that she is not going to be the real deal and the second one is flying and is being dug to regular now at 21 months!! the first one,is out of a bitch who started at 7 months when she self entered as i was out walking.i had to go home for a bar and spade and dig her out,i then held her back untill 14 months and she turned into a steady reliable worker. its nice to see a young dog start their work early but to be honest id rather they were at least 14 months before they wanted to go,its so hard to hold them back but i think it is worth it.i have two 11 month old dog pups who have never seen any quarry yet but a friend has their sister and she has been dug to 3 times. so at the end of the day,your dog your choice! !! BUT 5 MONTHS

[Up a Tree 0]

Whilst they may indeed enter before their first birthday how many Terriers get sickend by entering to early????

 

I would say many a promising Terrier has been ruined by entering to early they do not posses the mental ability to back off generally and for the fist couple of digs youve got yourselves a real tasmanian devil....Then it all goes wonky and the animal gives up all before 12 months thereby ruining a potentially good Terrier

 

JMO

 

 

To right, i have seen it all to often. A promising young Terrior being ruined from early entering. These then become the dogs that are past from pillar to post.