C.green 3,231 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Born Hunter said: I hear of all these notoriously high drive type dogs that it's known "need heaps of work daily or they'll turn into monsters" and yet I've seen more than one type in the hands of pragmatic no nonsense dogmen that are as chilled as an ex track greyhound with very little daily work, just consistency and a bit of physical exercise (by no means a lot). I'm not saying they don't exist but I think stockmanship/nurture plays a huge role. 100 per cent. Look at some of these mali dogs you see. First 10month be aggro with the chewing and hanging off trousers and what not all them herding breeds are like it. But there settle n make nice little dogs. 1 Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,891 Posted October 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 4 hours ago, billhardy said: I suppose if yas give them nought they'll eventually gett used T a.nought I have seen thus so the traits are not needed in a jukel of the part timer pos hunters pester killers are mu vh sought handlers da thus type the very use of the type his da driven hunter jukels thT can take a good bit of graft. Has the saying goes no build the drive no drive. Atb bill sorry bill but fuk me if i can understand that,i think your saying if you give the dog no hunting,they will look for nothing ,which is garbage in my opinion,i get the feeling your hoping for problems or foreseeing problems before they even appear...these dogs are bred from a very hard working kelpie that is not hyper in any way,hes calm and social when not at work..i talked to the farmer on the matter,as Phil did mention temperament is everything,so i did investigate the matter ,and as a stranger turning up at his farm,the dog had no suspicion of me and let me rub and pet him without a bother...the dam is a typical laid back greyhound,but manic in the pursuit of small game,..the mating between both hopefully will produce said same ....HOPEFULLY 8 Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,891 Posted October 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Bill an his chair an whip is only person capable of keeping such beats. How very dare you breed such a litter an place the pups with mere mortals ffs ,their dogs ,give em basic,sit /lie/stay and retrieve training,introduce em to stock,and nets ,and rifles and let the rest lay in the hands of the lord almighty lol...end of. 6 Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, C.green said: Bill i dont see how you can be on here saying you aint got the work for another dog then tell others what a dog needs for 50 rabbits a night. Id guess ya lucky to do 50 a season. Greeny why breed a jukel fa high drive and the stayo g ability if it ain't even gonna break sweat reed that little e tra something that helps the bag become more varied. I allrady past fift this season lol plus bits of others atb bill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, jigsaw said: sorry bill but fuk me if i can understand that,i think your saying if you give the dog no hunting,they will look for nothing ,which is garbage in my opinion,i get the feeling your hoping for problems or foreseeing problems before they even appear...these dogs are bred from a very hard working kelpie that is not hyper in any way,hes calm and social when not at work..i talked to the farmer on the matter,as Phil did mention temperament is everything,so i did investigate the matter ,and as a stranger turning up at his farm,the dog had no suspicion of me and let me rub and pet him without a bother...the dam is a typical laid back greyhound,but manic in the pursuit of small game,..the mating between both hopefully will produce said same ....HOPEFULLY A suppose the misunderstanding his his possible but drive needs to vbe bulit fa good numbers type jukel its a fact ha ING a jukel kept In the manner of a greyhou nd his not justified they'll need lots a stimulation and enty running live game that's all I say and I'll stick ta that not once have I said they handlers not gonna get it socks started on his already good man he knows atb bill Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,148 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, billhardy said: Greeny why breed a jukel fa high drive and the stayo g ability if it ain't even gonna break sweat reed that little e tra something that helps the bag become more varied. I allrady past fift this season lol plus bits of others atb bill Well u better catch a few more bill me and tyson are on a combine d bag of 7 so far were soon catch ya 1 Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,891 Posted October 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, billhardy said: Greeny why breed a jukel fa high drive and the stayo g ability if it ain't even gonna break sweat reed that little e tra something that helps the bag become more varied. I allrady past fift this season lol plus bits of others atb bill when you slay 15 goats and a deer Bill then you can boast ,lol...so we should breed less driven dogs and let the high drivers to the likes of you Bill?slaying 50 a night at times and running them as hard as possible and never getting to the end of their stamina? will ye fecking stop,..i am a casual hunter,2 days a week at best and hopefully a night or two a week in the future ,hills walking,and covering rough terrain,and i bet i wont have a bother with my laid back ,chilled out ,high driven pup 1 Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: More I look at this more I’m giggling like a wee lassie ffs jigsaw you need this as a screen saver I seen that kind a shot in those crates kat ch when yas bringing em back the messiah katchum in Totall full control lol atb bill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, jigsaw said: when you slay 15 goats and a deer Bill then you can boast ,lol...so we should breed less driven dogs and let the high drivers to the likes of you Bill?slaying 50 a night at times and running them as hard as possible and never getting to the end of their stamina? will ye fecking stop,..i am a casual hunter,2 days a week at best and hopefully a night or two a week in the future ,hills walking,and covering rough terrain,and i bet i wont have a bother with my laid back ,chilled out ,high driven pup Jig I've dropped nigh on that fmany fallow in a night plus with a single male jukel if we hanging with the big d I ks I neva saw that has a big fet never had time ta think off it matter has fact it was never even though off other lads were doi g similar. Numbers back then no guns mind Tb bill Quote Link to post
Blackmag 6,104 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 Bill when I first read of jigsaw seeking a stud then travelling to see such dogs in person and talking to owners and gaining advice it all costs money and time but he did the leg work it made a refreshing change from the usual stud wanted asap within 20 miles of such a area you see on here from time to time then he has said there's lads interested but there not the right sort so there not going there so proof there it's about what's best for the pups he's reared and did a cracking job dont you agree which he did for one himself not coin just let the lads post update there progress and see how they turn out instead of running them down before they even have a walk out 2 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,231 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, billhardy said: Greeny why breed a jukel fa high drive and the stayo g ability if it ain't even gonna break sweat reed that little e tra something that helps the bag become more varied. I allrady past fift this season lol plus bits of others atb bill You passed 50 but other day didnt have the work for 2 dogs lol ? Why do you need a mali x for stubble bashing bill ? If the linebred bull x and coursers and grew types were all so good bill why the change ? Quote Link to post
C.green 3,231 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 Nice to see any pup out and about asap katchum. Will its tail stay like that or is it just from bieng round the bitch lol Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, C.green said: You passed 50 but other day didnt have the work for 2 dogs lol ? Why do you need a mali x for stubble bashing bill ? If the linebred bull x and coursers and grew types were all so good bill why the change ? Greeny go feck ya self ta fool yas got about has much e perience has 2 Yr old in prep school lolatbbill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, C.green said: Nice to see any pup out and about asap katchum. Will its tail stay like that or is it just from bieng round the bitch lol Narrh it's W h at we call ring tail somesay carrying it gayley lol atbbill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Blackmag said: Bill when I first read of jigsaw seeking a stud then travelling to see such dogs in person and talking to owners and gaining advice it all costs money and time but he did the leg work it made a refreshing change from the usual stud wanted asap within 20 miles of such a area you see on here from time to time then he has said there's lads interested but there not the right sort so there not going there so proof there it's about what's best for the pups he's reared and did a cracking job dont you agree which he did for one himself not coin just let the lads post update there progress and see how they turn out instead of running them down before they even have a walk out I know he did but yas barking up the wrong tree. Atb bill Quote Link to post
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