jiggy 3,209 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Too be fair some of those brain dead headbangers of patterdales can be stock broke, but takes a bit more time and care than a soppy Labrador where a simple no does the trick. All the necessary items are at your local B+Q store. Chainsaw, face gaurd , sledge hammer, bill hook etc, sliplead and a packet of chocolate treats. 2 2 Quote Link to post
howdeeposxxt 1,448 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Have them around the stock you are more likely to encounter and be firm when they are acting the cxxt. I keep a small few sheep and have them around them everyday and their are plenty a cattle just over the ditch. They just need to get bored of them so plenty of interaction should work but won't always. Some are just brain dead and want to sink their teeth into anything that moves but generally speaking introduce early and be firm and it should come over time. It's well worth it in the end and a peace of mind also. 5 Quote Link to post
Jamie11 5 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Get them out as soon as they've had there jabs let them see what's what, as with everything some will be easy to break, IV had others I could never really trust. Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,212 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 14 hours ago, jiggy said: Too be fair some of those brain dead headbangers of patterdales can be stock broke, but takes a bit more time and care than a soppy Labrador where a simple no does the trick. All the necessary items are at your local B+Q store. Chainsaw, face gaurd , sledge hammer, bill hook etc, sliplead and a packet of chocolate treats. Most of these brain dead headbanger patterdales would probably be sensible dogs if the didnt belong to brain dead f***ing mongs that leave them banged up in a pen for 95% of their life. 5 2 Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Was just gonna say that the majority don t know anything other than the garden till 12 mnths 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 The last two comments seem harsh but are true, most problems in terriers can be solved by more time and socialisation out and about. I’ve even been out over the years with lads that bring a terrier hoping to get it entered and the bloody thing has never been on a lead before! Figure that one out. 1 Quote Link to post
jiggy 3,209 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 7 hours ago, downsouth said: Most of these brain dead headbanger patterdales would probably be sensible dogs if the didnt belong to brain dead f***ing mongs that leave them banged up in a pen for 95% of their life. Most but not all and it depends a lot on the breeding. I had some very easy kennel and stockbreak black dogs and then i had one that was a lot harder to train. It got more exercise and attention than any of my other dogs but still was very noisy, wrecked her kennel, ate metal bowls and pretty much anything she could get at. I ended up using a half beer barrel full of water to stop her flipping it and used a cow mat to lie on and she even chewed that up. I eventually got her stockbroke but you wouldn't go off to town and leave her in the chicken pen. Funny enough she wasn't aggressive with other dogs. It was all just a bit of fun for her. Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,212 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Rabbit Hunter said: The last two comments seem harsh but are true, most problems in terriers can be solved by more time and socialisation out and about. I’ve even been out over the years with lads that bring a terrier hoping to get it entered and the bloody thing has never been on a lead before! Figure that one out. Yep also seen them pulled out of terrier boxes covered in puke and shit where they've never been off their yard let alone on a car journey to then crawl around on their bellies with their tail up their arse to then be culled when they wont go first time unfortunately the terrier job does seem to attract its fair share of backward c**ts. 6 1 Quote Link to post
Setenta 117 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Get them out ASAP... then it’s all about time, patience and consistency over and over again. Quote Link to post
Moocher71 4,049 Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 On 19/06/2019 at 20:43, S.Maclean said: I'm very much considering patterdales as my next foray into dogs but still considering my options, I've had Jack Russell's in the past but never bothered introducing them to other animals as it wasn't an issue. Just after some experience from you guys as to whats possible and what to expect both off lead and on lead with daily exposure as I live with my animals. Hoping to be able to avoid a horse/donkey stampede trampling sheep and my latest puppy getting disembowelled by a goat. Take your pup around stock ,get them used to being around them and they soon break to live stock . just treat it same as any terrier , put the work in early and keep it on lead if your not wanting to dig , they need work to keep there minds healthy as well as the body . have fun Quote Link to post
S.Maclean 94 Posted June 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 Thanks for all the constructive comments like I say it's never been too much of an issue because I just knew they weren't around them but my new dogs coming through are gonna be with me in and out feeding the horses/donkeys, mucking round etc virtually 8 hours a day mixing with various stuff so I'll keep a long lead on for a good while and keep the recall as I always would. I just know my Jack Russell's never understood that bigger animals were dangerous well I'm glad anyway because I'm settled on patterdales... Anything smaller than them they can rag to bits. Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,092 Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 I've written about this before but I've seen a Patterdale chasing sheep get a hit with a shock collar,do a backflip and keep on chasing,several times.The owner gets out a lot with his dogs but has 30 odd at one time, so not enough work could be the problem,but his line of dogs are very full on and highly driven.That particular one was never trustworthy around stock.My two Russells are also very full on and kill cats(which is part of their job here).I tried a collar on them and they wont chase the farm cats with it on,but soon learnt when its not on the cats are fair game.They are really good with all other farm animals including the chooks. 2 Quote Link to post
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