Guest k9wpg Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Since posting this thread last night, I added a few replies to post. I've come back to it today and read the thread through and seen some of the posts/replies added during today. I have to say that I agree with everything that has been said, im many ways. I too have faught for this country, in other countries and on behalf of this country. I too feel sick (literally as Iread these posts) at what has happened to this once fantastic, honourable and proud nation and the people that made it so. If you strip life back 20 years, look at the life that is lived by real rural or country folk today, its not that unsimilar; but then compare that with the world in which the rest of this sad suburban, disposable society lives in, surely the cr*P they are expousing about how they "want" to live, how they think we should all live; with better morals, respect, cleaner living, less shamefull and less wastefull.........is that not the life rural comunities live in anway?? A huge part of me wants to throw it all in, go off and start afresh in a new place where I'm free to live a life of dreams and respect, where I can live and grow old, where I'm valued and not dictated to or down trodden, whhere action has consequenses (the govt get away with murder and we get hemmered for the smallest thing)..........but part of me is proud of who I am, of what I have done, of who I have done it for and this place we all love and call home. Not the UK of the political world, but the real ground we walk on and work and live on, I love this place............. ................but the people that run "this place" have and are stripping away at my inner core, that proud feeling, the feeling of worth, my self respect and esteem is being erroded and chipped away, and not for any reason other than political capital goal of those "at the top"......they are slowly (and on purpose) killing what I believe in and love, my values and what makes me, and I'm scared there is no way back. Damn, i wanted to say all this, but i think you may have said it better. I think group solidarity ended when Thatcherism came into force, and we have now come to regret how we have allowed our country to be ruined by greed, selfishness and materialism. No one is prepared to stand up for what they believe in, no one wants to get involved in disputes that they dont think concern them directly, and they only realise their mistakes when it's too late. I think it might well be too late to change things in this country, we are now on second even third generation social compliance. To try and change the publics thinking now, is nigh on impossible. I am proud to be British, but not necessarily proud of Britain. I'm not so sure I'm even proud to be british any more.......... I don't have delusions that we sould be what we once were, the Victorian Britan of old, the world leaders in industry, engineering, the rulers of the wave.........but the country I grew up in (and I'm only 30) was a much better, safer, respected place....... ditto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 The worlds problems can be summed up very quickly.......Over-population. you take humans from the equation and the earth does just fine thank you very much....... If the human race doesnt die out then the planet will.....i hope its we humans first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest k9wpg Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 The worlds problems can be summed up very quickly.......Over-population. you take humans from the equation and the earth does just fine thank you very much....... If the human race doesnt die out then the planet will.....i hope its we humans first. Ive often had similar thoughts about a para influenza outbreak ,how would the non hunting folk survivors would cope.Not very well I think.The planet will be here long after were all gone and will heal itself fom any damage we cause .Maybe Mother nature will give up on us,like its done before and give some other species a go..My money would be on Insects . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lord B Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 It just sickens me that so many people feel the same. I know each country has its problems, governments are allways unpopular, but the feeling of errosion of respect, values, faith, self respect that are being crept in to indivuduals lives in this country are frightening. Is does make you ask what the point is? We have gone too far to go back, but I would love the oportunity to do something to give the country itself back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Some points in here very relevant to the "Channel 4" debate, quite agree LB, food production, marketing etc is wholely wrong, we need to inform and educate and stop the demand for rubbish no matter what produce it is...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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