Fury back to fighting bums

[South hams hunter 8,934]

56 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Martin and Cornish wernt the best of opponents either .

Millions times above schwarz

[shaaark 10,917]

1 hour ago, maxhardcore said:

Martin and Cornish wernt the best of opponents either .

Remind us of all the world class, top 5 contenders that wilder fought in his 40 fights before fury please max. Wilder's shit.

And then remember, wilder knocked 'untouchable' fury on his arse TWICE in the same fight. And that when fury won his fight against klitschko, klitschko hardly threw a dozen punches in every round, so fury was obviously going to outpoint him. Shit fight, boring as f**k!

When joshua fought klitschko, it was a proper fight, that BOTH of them wanted to win. Entertaining as f**k, great fight!

 

Edited March 26, 2019 by shaaark

[gnasher16 30,462]

1 hour ago, maxhardcore said:

Or you could look at it from a different angle and argue that a two year older Klitch gave Josh all kinds of trouble and should of finished him.

When Fury made him look amateurish .

Like Beauty ' it's all in the eye of the beholder

A lot of boxing " experts " have said the Klitschko that fought Joshua was the best version of Klitschko in years,why he stayed retired on a performance like that is anyones guess.

1 hour ago, maxhardcore said:

They were both still very poor opponents. ' Martin was a total joke as a World Champion.

That belt was a gift for Joshua.

Yes but the difference is Joshua didnt CHOOSE to fight a total joke he had to if he wanted the world title belt......Fury is CHOOSING to fight a total joke.

[jukel123 8,657]

12 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

A lot of boxing " experts " have said the Klitschko that fought Joshua was the best version of Klitschko in years,why he stayed retired on a performance like that is anyones guess.

Yes but the difference is Joshua didnt CHOOSE to fight a total joke he had to if he wanted the world title belt......Fury is CHOOSING to fight a total joke.

What's your opinion of Wilder folks? To me he seems a slapper, small for his division and limited. Yet he is very effective with a concussive punch. I cannot make him out. Maybe that's his strength the fact that he is so different?

Edited March 27, 2019 by jukel123

[MickC 1,825]

Fury is not daft and there is no way he would go back to America to fight Wilder as the “B” side as recent results in the game has shown Kovalev x2  GGG x2  Fury x1 and others where all screwed over. Fury knew he had to make changes as there were remaining concerns with the rematch and if he was to compete over in America again would he get a fair roll of the dice ? So he signs up with Top Rank/ESPN for there backing, to raise his profile and get a load of money from the deal. Fury had no obligation or duty to take the immediate rematch, he had already travelled to America for the first fight with Wilder as well as Wilder himself saying that he would do the rematch in Britain and then back peddling. Fury by popular opinion had won the first fight but got jobbed on the score cards. Before the Wilder fight Fury was in no mans land after just two comeback fights and took the opportunity to fight Wilder as a way of getting himself straight back into the title mix with many people wrongly believing that he was the sacrificial lamb out to just get a big pay day lol or the fight would not happen, he may not have got the win that many felt he deserved but he did get an eighty million $ contract from the biggest American promoter and also now has a much bigger platform to showcase himself, which he did not have before the Wilder fight. Fury will have been advised to string the Wilder rematch out for a bit longer to get even more money which is exactly what both Joshua and Wilder have been doing for a long time now regards there fight. Fury has gone for the money option which is what all fighters do. Joshua and Wilder both have a major broadcaster/major promotional team behind them and Fury has now done the same. Fury is not making the decisions now, he will do the same as them two again, which is to play the game like them to maximise there careers and earning ability. Fury was criticised for taking the Wilder fight like as mentioned people wrongly thought he was cashing out, yet now the same people are criticising him for pulling out of the immediate rematch saying he is scared of Wilder !! lol. Furys promoter,his team and his father all advised him not to fight Wilder as it was too soon and he was far from 100% after months and months of obesity and drink/drugs use and with only two low level comeback fights under his belt but he still fought Wilder with many people believing he was robbed of the win.Fury is now doing what he should have done in the first place and which is what he was told to do by almost everybody in the boxing community and that is to take at least a year or a few tune up fights before even thinking of going in with Joshua or Wilder. Rumours are that if he beats Shwarz that then it will be Pulev next, hopefully by then Joshua and Wilder will be signed up to fight .

Edited March 26, 2019 by MickC

[South hams hunter 8,934]

14 hours ago, maxhardcore said:

We're They ?

Yeah they are

[shaaark 10,917]

14 hours ago, jukel123 said:

What's your opinion of Wilder folks? To me he seems a slapper, small for his division and limited. Yet he is very effective with a concussive punch. I cannot make him out. Maybe that's his strength the fact that he is so different?

Honest opinion, he's f***ing rubbish! Does hardly anything correctly, fights like a panicking amature when he gets hit, has nothing I like to see in a boxer, at any weight, and has picked less than averagely good fighters his whole career.Which is why he's got such a big ko percentage. He's also ducked anyone he thinks might give him trouble. He didn't choose to fight fury, he only fought him cos he thought fury was past it, given his behaviour/weight etc, the couple of years prior to their fight, and he still lost, in reality, never mind the decision. There'll be no rematch, and there'll certainly be no wilder v joshua. 

Might be wrong, but that's my opinion

Edited March 27, 2019 by shaaark

[Billy b 786]

14 hours ago, jukel123 said:

What's your opinion of Wilder folks? To me he seems a slapper, small for his division and limited. Yet he is very effective with a concussive punch. I cannot make him out. Maybe that's his strength the fact that he is so different?

Wilder is an athletic,wiry fighter who isn't,and never will be the greatest fighter technically.he trips over his own feet at times,throws shots from awkward angles that chucks his balance off & in general  doesn't seem to have much of a boxing brain

i think anyone  can see he's not a fancy dan,but to be fair to him,he carries his power right to the final bell,and he has some shot on him,and this is the pro ranks it's not the ams you get fighters like this who just know they can switch people off IF they land,so while he's a awful boxer he's got that equaliser in his power,whether he lands it or not is just the chance all punchers take 

won't be the first or the last fighter to dine out on a big shot 

Edited March 27, 2019 by Billy b

[gnasher16 30,462]

22 hours ago, jukel123 said:

What's your opinion of Wilder folks? To me he seems a slapper, small for his division and limited. Yet he is very effective with a concussive punch. I cannot make him out. Maybe that's his strength the fact that he is so different?

As a fighter he is terrible but until such time as boxing introduces a super heavyweight division these human giants will continue to reach the top of the sport...as it stands any vaguely athletic,physically determined and dedicated basketball player should be in with a shout at winning the greatest prize in sport.....can you imagine how ridiculous guys like Wilder and Fury would be made to look if Oleksander Usyk was their size 

GIven time and space Wilder punches through the target and appears to take a reasonable shot.....beyond that he makes every mistake in the book,but like other ring giants his size gets him out of trouble.

[gnasher16 30,462]

22 hours ago, MickC said:

Fury is not daft and there is no way he would go back to America to fight Wilder as the “B” side as recent results in the game has shown Kovalev x2  GGG x2  Fury x1 and others where all screwed over. Fury knew he had to make changes as there were remaining concerns with the rematch and if he was to compete over in America again would he get a fair roll of the dice ? So he signs up with Top Rank/ESPN for there backing, to raise his profile and get a load of money from the deal. Fury had no obligation or duty to take the immediate rematch, he had already travelled to America for the first fight with Wilder as well as Wilder himself saying that he would do the rematch in Britain and then back peddling. Fury by popular opinion had won the first fight but got jobbed on the score cards. Before the Wilder fight Fury was in no mans land after just two comeback fights and took the opportunity to fight Wilder as a way of getting himself straight back into the title mix with many people wrongly believing that he was the sacrificial lamb out to just get a big pay day lol or the fight would not happen, he may not have got the win that many felt he deserved but he did get an eighty million $ contract from the biggest American promoter and also now has a much bigger platform to showcase himself, which he did not have before the Wilder fight. Fury will have been advised to string the Wilder rematch out for a bit longer to get even more money which is exactly what both Joshua and Wilder have been doing for a long time now regards there fight. Fury has gone for the money option which is what all fighters do. Joshua and Wilder both have a major broadcaster/major promotional team behind them and Fury has now done the same. Fury is not making the decisions now, he will do the same as them two again, which is to play the game like them to maximise there careers and earning ability. Fury was criticised for taking the Wilder fight like as mentioned people wrongly thought he was cashing out, yet now the same people are criticising him for pulling out of the immediate rematch saying he is scared of Wilder !! lol. Furys promoter,his team and his father all advised him not to fight Wilder as it was too soon and he was far from 100% after months and months of obesity and drink/drugs use and with only two low level comeback fights under his belt but he still fought Wilder with many people believing he was robbed of the win.Fury is now doing what he should have done in the first place and which is what he was told to do by almost everybody in the boxing community and that is to take at least a year or a few tune up fights before even thinking of going in with Joshua or Wilder. Rumours are that if he beats Shwarz that then it will be Pulev next, hopefully by then Joshua and Wilder will be signed up to fight .

You have a lot more patience than me  Mick to even attempt to sift through all the bollocks....but dress it up however you like the Fury clan have made themself look ridiculous... all that silly " we,re real men "....." we know boxing inside out " ....." we,ll do it our way " nonsense....and look at him now playing the game like everyone else ....ok most of it was the father making a show of himself like he always has but Fury has just proved he,s a basic bullshitter,nothing more nothing less.....im not a fan of any of the so called " big 3 " but i,ll give Joshua his due he,s the only one of them with any class about him.

[gnasher16 30,462]

On 27/03/2019 at 19:07, maxhardcore said:

So are you saying there should be height restrictions to the Heavyweight Division as Wilder is under 16 stone ain't he ?????

Or do  you advocate Weight restrictions ?????

Yes there should be weight restrictions Wilder fought Fury at 211 because not feeling threatened by Furys power he was happy to sacrifice strength for speed.....but he has also fought guys at 230 with the opposite in mind....at every other weight division guys have to fight opponents of the same size..Tommy Hearns put on 40 odd pound through his career and every time he moved around the weights he had to fight an opponent of the same size....weight limits are there to protect fighters and make for competetive bouts so as men get larger so should the divisions.....a 225 or 230 super heavyweight division is needed whereby a 205 lb fighter with great skills and ability is not being mauled to defeat by a guy with an overactive pituitary gland.

Edited March 28, 2019 by gnasher16

[shaaark 10,917]

1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

Yes there should be weight restrictions Wilder fought Fury at 211 because not feeling threatened by Furys power he was happy to sacrifice strength for speed.....but he has also fought guys at 230 with the opposite in mind....at every other weight division guys have to fight opponents of the same size..Tommy Hearns put on 40 odd pound through his career and every time he moved around the weights he had to fight an opponent of the same size....weight limits are there to protect fighters and make for competetive bouts so as men get larger so should the divisions.....a 225 or 230 super heavyweight division is needed whereby a 205 lb fighter with great skills and ability is not being mauled to defeat by a guy with an overactive pituitary gland.

Said similar to this in the beginning of the fury wilder thread I think gnash. Heavyweight is the only division a fighter can be outweighed by his opponent by 5, 10, 20, 30, 40lb or even more. Madness!

[dytkos 17,819]

1 hour ago, sid g said:

Watched that last night strangely enough.

Cheers, D.

[gnasher16 30,462]

22 hours ago, maxhardcore said:

So Joshua and Fury would then be Super Heavyweights .

 

You're catching on fast 

[shaaark 10,917]

2 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

You're catching on fast 

Not that f***ing fast