colliejohn 840 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Daisy the destroyer said: Lovely litter of pups mate all the best with them can’t beat abit of collie in a dog Cheers mate. Regards Collie John 1 Link to post
bird 9,880 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, TOMO said: I got a little bitch here ...bonnie...only 3/16 collie the rest greyhound and whippet.....wish I had a £! for every rabbit she missed up the dales I would be a rich man..... as for hunting up read beds she does a cracking job.....with hardly any collie in her..... just last Friday I was up there bolting to the dogs ....had fert with me....who has speedy line bred collie cross 25 ish at the shoulder....and a gwalch...a wesh fella with a speedy well put together bitch out of gaffa......ask either of them two about the rabbits we missed up the dales that day....plenty... at the end of the day there johns pups and I wish him well with them....im sure as marking dogs and catching in the hole mouth they will do whats asked ..... but out and out runners.....there not catching them....that's where you need a running dog not a collie my old 1x collie x grey Bryn was fast for this type x, you seen old Bryn and vin as seen him run , me self i think 1/4 collie plenty, still enough brain and enough speed to spare with 3/4 running dog , and as been said on some ground rabbits dont hang about so you need them gears to catch them. we all different in what we like in a lurcher, i quite like gsd in lurcher, i like there mind set , there like collie with good brain, but got more grit= bottle in them than a collie deff. Best of luck john with your pups , hope there go to good caring homes that like this type dog . Ray Link to post
fatlad 250 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 I've seen a 3/4 reverse bred collie greyhound take hundreds up the dales plenty fast enough she was no good local on the lamp but took loads of bolters local to me he knew her limitations and worked her to suit her style, she took fox as well single handed the farm collie sometimes came with us and he took loads of stuff on the moors and blocks of woodland he really was good for bolters near woods no fear would just plough in and grab them never seen him run stuff on open sets though 4 Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, fatlad said: I've seen a 3/4 reverse bred collie greyhound take hundreds up the dales plenty fast enough she was no good local on the lamp but took loads of bolters local to me he knew her limitations and worked her to suit her style, she took fox as well single handed the farm collie sometimes came with us and he took loads of stuff on the moors and blocks of woodland he really was good for bolters near woods no fear would just plough in and grab them never seen him run stuff on open sets though Sounded like a decent dog with a sensible owner, obviously these dogs ain’t going to be speed merchants I didn’t breed them that way because I don’t like that type of dog, there bred to mooch, work cover, ferret, and lamp obviously not on golf courses etc, they’d suit the type of person who has experience with Collie greyhounds, and who is good with dogs, there not suited to everyone which is good in my mind, this type of cross and the quality bloodlines which is in both of my dogs goes way back, and has far has I know no one else has or is breeding or working these bloodlines and the Collie blood what’s in these dogs are top working dogs. Regards Collie John 6 Link to post
Elchapo 3,166 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Saltmoon said: Is that an open offer chapo I'll come tale some of them bunnys It is if you have a 3/4 collie or 1/8th collie Link to post
Saltmoon 2,208 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, Elchapo said: It is if you have a 3/4 collie or 1/8th collie What about 3/32 collie Link to post
TOMO 26,127 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Saltmoon said: What about 3/32 collie that's about the right amount.... 1 2 Link to post
poxon 5,731 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Saltmoon said: What about 3/32 collie More than enough collie blood I recon for us simpletons An still shows it’s presents in the hybrid 1 Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Elchapo said: So surely it’s not an all round rabbit dog if it can’t catch on all terrain in all forms of hunting , Read it again I to said I doubt it would not be an allround rabbit dog because it would lack speed on fast ground Edited March 21, 2019 by Busher100 Spelling Link to post
Elchapo 3,166 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, Busher100 said: Read it again I to said I doubt it would not be an allround rabbit dog because it would lack speed on fast ground I no you did , and me saying so surely it’s not an all rounder ( meaning all round rabbit dog) was a rhetorical question simply replying to you first bit of the post were you said “ he was saying an allround rabbit dog not an all rounder “ as I don’t believe a collie with 1/8th grey hound in it is an all round rabbit dog . 1 Link to post
Moocher71 4,049 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Elchapo said: I no you did , and me saying so surely it’s not an all rounder ( meaning all round rabbit dog) was a rhetorical question simply replying to you first bit of the post were you said “ he was saying an allround rabbit dog not an all rounder “ as I don’t believe a collie with 1/8th grey hound in it is an all round rabbit dog . Just out of interest what x do you call a good rabbit dog. Link to post
Marvel 469 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 20/03/2019 at 15:14, colliejohn said: Yes pal. Regards Collie John wow that's a lot of collie Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 let comonsence prevail fa flecks sake they are what they are collies with a tiny drop of grey,how and who utilises there qualities bred in em are like those jukels few and far between atb bill 1 Link to post
Elchapo 3,166 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moocher71 said: Just out of interest what x do you call a good rabbit dog. Any cross could be good rabbit dog for each individual, what would I call a good rabbit dog , well anything catching consistently on all terrain ,in your post you seem to keep making out I’m stupid because I don’t think collie crosses make good rabbit dogs which isn’t what I said or tried to imply , if rabbits were my sole quarry I would own either a collie whippet grey ,or a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie so it could consistently catch rabbits on any terrain, there is no way on earth I would own a collie with 1/8 greyhound in it for catching rabbits it’s near enough a full collie and it wouldn’t stand a chance catching rabbit on the lamp or bushing or bolting to ferrets ( consistently) yea if it got good at its game I could catch rabbits at the mouth of burrow and could pick rabbits up out of reeds and rough but it would be very limited on the terrain wich favoured the rabbit , you and collie John mite only ferret and a dog of this breeding may be ideal for you but it is as far from an all round rabbit dog as can be , Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 They may not be everyones cuppa tea, but there's plenty moan about the lack of suitable collie studs for putting over pures or longdog type lurchers. Dogsbre and worked like collie Johns would be a damn good choice. 13 Link to post
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