Saltmoon 2,208 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, runner neil said: Lol ... is that in favour of yes or no Towards yes there is it will only be 100% if I see one with my own eyes 1 Quote Link to post
runner neil 215 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 It strikes me as funny that when i mentioned i had seen a red stag in my field a few pages back i was ridiculed for being slow , couldn't get a photo ... I must be useless . Thinking logically i have farmed here for about 10 years and we have always had a herd of 20 or so reds that float in and out off the moor and every year we watch their calves grow , but in all the hours i have spent outside , day in day out , all hours of the day and night , lambing , tractor driving , fencing , walking ,shooting and of course out with my dogs ... countless hours ... I have only seen that one stag , a fleeting glance of a prime stag that must weigh 250 kg plus and be getting on for 6 foot at the head , and yet he must come every year for our hinds to get in calf . Yet at the mention of the possibility of a big cat being about , a creature that is naturally shy and evasive , wary of noise and humans , probably weighing 50 to 60 kg and only a couple of feet to the shoulder i am classed a dreamer . I have seen all sorts dead and alive and have a good understanding of our fauna and how it works ... I also understand when something isn't right or doesn't fit with what we think we understand . And just for the record i can manage the odd pic 5 1 Quote Link to post
Boristheblade 1,367 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 8 hours ago, shaaark said: Boris, do you believe in god, or are you religious? No do I Fuk. That’s just another conspiracy created in old days to keep people in line 1 2 Quote Link to post
runner neil 215 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 I bet Boris still thinks the world is flat 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,729 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, runner neil said: I bet Boris still thinks the world is flat It is isn't it?! 1 Quote Link to post
Greyman 28,375 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 People like boris will just try and ruin the thread because he has nothing to offer the conversation, it always amuses me when people who have run a few dogs or stuck an odd ferret down think they no more than folk who live and work on the land all there lives, I have the utmost respect for folk who say I won’t believe it until I see it as that’s a natural reaction, but those that just try to shout louder than everyone else to make a point are best ignored, 9 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,729 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, runner neil said: It strikes me as funny that when i mentioned i had seen a red stag in my field a few pages back i was ridiculed for being slow , couldn't get a photo ... I must be useless . Thinking logically i have farmed here for about 10 years and we have always had a herd of 20 or so reds that float in and out off the moor and every year we watch their calves grow , but in all the hours i have spent outside , day in day out , all hours of the day and night , lambing , tractor driving , fencing , walking ,shooting and of course out with my dogs ... countless hours ... I have only seen that one stag , a fleeting glance of a prime stag that must weigh 250 kg plus and be getting on for 6 foot at the head , and yet he must come every year for our hinds to get in calf . Yet at the mention of the possibility of a big cat being about , a creature that is naturally shy and evasive , wary of noise and humans , probably weighing 50 to 60 kg and only a couple of feet to the shoulder i am classed a dreamer . I have seen all sorts dead and alive and have a good understanding of our fauna and how it works ... I also understand when something isn't right or doesn't fit with what we think we understand . And just for the record i can manage the odd pic What you've described here neil is a pretty common reaction/attitude, by people that don't have as much knowledge of wildlife as they think they do. Not talking big cats here, but hares. A few years ago I was approached by a lad that wanted to catch some hares with his dog. So I suggested an area where I knew them to be in. He says to me 'naaa none there, I lamped up there 5 or 6 times last season'. ........... lol 5 or 6 times in a whole season?!! Lol. I went there about a week later and caught 2 the same night . Big cats will have no problem whatsoever living in this country, and for the most part easily avoid being detected. There are big cat experts living in rainforests in south america for 3 years at a time, with trailcams set up etc looking for jaguars. Might get 3 or 4 pics on the cams, and only actually see ONE jaguar, ........ in 3 years actively looking for them! Edited March 24, 2019 by shaaark 3 Quote Link to post
ginger beard 4,652 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 12 hours ago, runner neil said: It strikes me as funny that when i mentioned i had seen a red stag in my field a few pages back i was ridiculed for being slow , couldn't get a photo ... I must be useless . Thinking logically i have farmed here for about 10 years and we have always had a herd of 20 or so reds that float in and out off the moor and every year we watch their calves grow , but in all the hours i have spent outside , day in day out , all hours of the day and night , lambing , tractor driving , fencing , walking ,shooting and of course out with my dogs ... countless hours ... I have only seen that one stag , a fleeting glance of a prime stag that must weigh 250 kg plus and be getting on for 6 foot at the head , and yet he must come every year for our hinds to get in calf . Yet at the mention of the possibility of a big cat being about , a creature that is naturally shy and evasive , wary of noise and humans , probably weighing 50 to 60 kg and only a couple of feet to the shoulder i am classed a dreamer . I have seen all sorts dead and alive and have a good understanding of our fauna and how it works ... I also understand when something isn't right or doesn't fit with what we think we understand . And just for the record i can manage the odd pic Lamping permission please neil. 1 Quote Link to post
Saltmoon 2,208 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, ginger beard said: Lamping permission please neil. Second that one Quote Link to post
mackem 26,333 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 22 hours ago, Greyman said: we have had dna confirmation of leopard from kills in the uk How do we access that info? Quote Link to post
mackem 26,333 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 17 hours ago, runner neil said: how many people live in Mumbai ? And how many know they have Leopards living among them let alone seen one ? 24.5 million,its a shit-hole of epic proportions,the leopards are well known,televised. Quote Link to post
runner neil 215 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, ginger beard said: Lamping permission please neil. Lol ... they are not rabbits mate Edited March 24, 2019 by runner neil Quote Link to post
runner neil 215 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Saltmoon said: Second that one You not that far away give me a shout sometime 1 Quote Link to post
runner neil 215 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 2 hours ago, mackem said: 24.5 million,its a shit-hole of epic proportions,the leopards are well known,televised. It is that for sure , but i wonder how many of that massive population have actually seen one in the flesh Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,899 Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, runner neil said: It is that for sure , but i wonder how many of that massive population have actually seen one in the flesh 12 1 2 Quote Link to post
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