dohnut 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 (edited) i need a bit of help and advice i bought a bsa (airrifle) from a shop in hull(duncans gunshop) anyway i went hunting with it,on way home i got pulled by police for a routine check anyway they took rifle off me,and when they tested it ,when checks came back it was over 12 pounds,so now i getting charged with class 1 firarms what can i do. i have reciets that i bought rifle 2 weeks eaylier Edited January 3, 2008 by dohnut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Get yourself a solicitor. The shop broke the law by selling you a gun that was over the legal limit, unless you tinkered with it yourself, but as you got caught in possesion of the gun, you commited an offence, whether you knew it was over the limit or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest coney catcher99 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 GIVE MR DUNCAN A VISIT / IM SURE BASC WOULD FIGHT IT BUTT I DONT KNOW IF YOU ALREADY HAD TO BE A MEMEBER GOOD LUCK thumbs: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
donnyc 1,203 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 i need a bit of help and advice i bought a bsa (airrifle) from a shop in hull(duncans gunshop) anyway i went hunting with it,on way home i got pulled by police for a routine check anyway they took rifle off me,and when they tested it ,when checks came back it was over 12 pounds,so now i getting charged with class 1 firarms what can i do. i have reciets that i bought rifle 2 weeks eaylier Been there, done it........thought i had a case, even had an independant test done at the cost of £900 which showed my gun was firing under the limit.....the police got another test done and proved that my gun was capable (with heavy pellets) of firing at 11.2 avg.......was found guilty and got £1000 fine, and forfeiture of the gun. Unfortunately its an absolute crime...your either guilty or not guilty ie: no middle ground.... 11.2 is under the limit?..Think you will find Most if not all BSA S10 go over the limit soon after being bought .The reg fails on the gun and they tend to go to 13 14FTLBS .The bloody regs do not vent to atmospere the first O ring fails but the second holds but does put them over .Been proved many many times . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest craftycarper Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 (edited) sorry but i'm lost a bit here, i must be a couple of slices short of a loaf of bread what's wrong with an average of 11.2, surely thats under the legal limit with heavy pellets, if they had put light pellets through and it was found to be over i could understand to tell you the truth i enquired about a secondhand AA s410k at a local shop a few years back, and when i asked what it was putting out the guy replied "we don't bother to check any of our secondhand air rifles with a chrono" Edited January 3, 2008 by craftycarper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theobenmike 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 GIVE MR DUNCAN A VISIT / IM SURE BASC WOULD FIGHT IT BUTT I DONT KNOW IF YOU ALREADY HAD TO BE A MEMEBER GOOD LUCK thumbs: You need a good solicitor with experience in firearms matters. As above try phoning basc and ask if they will fight it for you if you joined or payed them to do it If you can prove that it was over the limit when you bought it, it may be the gunshop that's in the sh#t. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bullet 125 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 first off i'd get the solictitor to do a date chech on the police crono to see weather its calibration test is out of date, is it a lightning? if so i bet its got a ram in it it might be worth telling them that you had pellet lube on the pellets to lube your barrell, did they use your pellets or their own? what cal is it 22 or 177? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dohnut 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 first off i'd get the solictitor to do a date chech on the police crono to see weather its calibration test is out of date, is it a lightning? if so i bet its got a ram in itit might be worth telling them that you had pellet lube on the pellets to lube your barrell, did they use your pellets or their own? what cal is it 22 or 177? its a .22 i think they use there own pellets not sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markbivvy 6 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 i have reciets that i bought rifle 2 weeks eaylier in the 2 weeks you should have had it on a chronograph, its your own responsibility. the shop will say it was ok when it left them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
donnyc 1,203 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Hope it was new and the tamperproof hasnt been touched . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bullet 125 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 i know its a bsa but what model? have the police kept it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bullet 125 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 When they tested my gun they used 3 different weights of pellets of different makes. It was also worth noting that the pellets they took from me 'accupel'....never went over 12lb but the heavy pellets they used did (barracuda's i think) they cant do that, if your brand of pellet your using doesnt exceed the power then your ok, get that off the police what pellet they use and tell them what you use, get a good solictitor on the case it states here make sure you know your gun's power with your pellets http://www.youngmans.com/acatalog/law.html as long as you took the nesserary percautions to know and are with in power with your pellets then they havent got a case Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T78 4 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 i always thought it was illegal if your gun "is capable of exceeding 12 ft/lbs"? i.e,it should do under 12 with heavy and even less with lighter pellets?i know it doesnt always work that way and i dont agree with the wording but i thought that was how it was written? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c2c 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 (edited) surely if it goes to court you can get a police to take the to a gun specialist to tell that the gun had not been tampered with in any way what so ever (as long as that is the case ) i would get you solicter to request that the gun is taken apart by an independant gun smith and show his results in court Edited January 3, 2008 by c2c Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 surely if it goes to court you can get a police to take the to a gun specialist to tell that the gun had not been tampered with in any way what so ever (as long as that is the case ) i would get you solicter to request that the gun is taken apart by an independant gun smith and show his results in court I don't think it will matter. They will say that ignorance is not an excuse for breaking the law. You would still get found guilty, but it would be up to the magistrates discretion as to what sentance. It's there in black and white, the gun was capable of firing over the legal limit, and if you are in possetion of it without a license, you have broken the law, as well as the shop for selling it in the first place. I guess we could use this a good reason to keep a check on our guns, as I don't usually bother, but I will from now on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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