KNIFE CRIME

[TOMO 26,264]

2 minutes ago, secretagentmole said:

When a 17 year old white girl is knifed in a park by a black male for no reason?

yeh there have been some white kids obviously but I think on the hole its black on black....

[TOMO 26,264]

1 minute ago, waltjnr said:

from what ive read/heard ,the young white teen girl was just randomly stabbed in the back ,once caught what do you's think the punishment should be for the person caught for this crime ? I personally feel that as we've no death panalty ,life in solitary would be apt ,you dont go up and just plunge a knife into a girls back snuffing out a young life ,not if your a sane civilized member  of the human race! 

in that instance ...life should mean just that.....never let out ever....

or personly I would like to see the person responcible for that terrible crime swing

[riohog 5,714]

2 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

from what ive read/heard ,the young white teen girl was just randomly stabbed in the back ,once caught what do you's think the punishment should be for the person caught for this crime ? I personally feel that as we've no death panalty ,life in solitary would be apt ,you dont go up and just plunge a knife into a girls back snuffing out a young life ,not if your a sane civilized member  of the human race! 

maybe the kid who stabbed her will get a badge, and move him up the ranks in his gang 

[Blackbriar 8,569]

A loss of over 20,000 police officers over the last 10 years MUST play apart in this ? If there is less likelihood of being caught, you're more likely to break the law and, therefore, have less respect for the law ? But that, for me, is just one part of a larger puzzle.

I'm not excusing criminality in  any way, and I may be oversimplifying this, but here's my take...............

From an early age, most of the youngsters we're talking about here, begin at a disadvantage. I can't cite a source, but I remember reading that around 25% of kids from urban,  single parent families don't even know who their dad is, let alone have any contact with him ! They have no positive male influence in their lives and unavoidably mix with other kids in the same position. Their common belief is (rightly or wrongly)) that they have no future, no prospects and that education is a waste of time. Their mums can't, or won't, keep them out of trouble, schools don't have any meaningful discipline, so they get excluded and sent to a Pupil Referral Unit - these are little more than gang grooming centres ! In their spare time, they have no productive use of their time, so they congregate together, disrupting the local community. Big Bad Leroy comes along in his flash car, offers them a handful of notes to hide a parcel for a couple of days, or drop a box off down the road, and they are slowly sucked into a dysfunctional lifestyle, where violence and criminality become 'normal'. There's large-scale evidence that, if they refuse to cooperate, they are threatened, bullied and coerced into compliance, by a previous generation, who fell into the same traps. If they're caught with a knife (easy to obtain, easy to hide), there's no real penalty for the first couple of occasions so, again, no sanctions, no discipline, no reason to rethink your choices. And besides, the chances of getting caught are minimal, as the police are strangers to their neighbourhoods, in the normal course of things.......

So, as I see it, there isn't a 'crisis' that will be solved by a single initiative. There's a whole web of pitfalls, that mesh together over time and too many youngsters get mired into it, and can't find a way out !

 

[mackem 26,802]

1 minute ago, riohog said:

maybe the kid who stabbed her will get a badge, and move him up the ranks in his gang 

The TV actually speculated yesterday on whether the random stabbing was his gang initiation,we cant fathom something like that,cant understand that mindset,but that's certain sectors of failed Britain,failed not by the state,we as individuals are nothing to do with other families kids,we cant guide them or reprimand them,the root cause is two people,their biological parents,look at that feral kid the 14 year old with the moped,loads of cash,out all hours,kicked out of several schools,,riding a moped around the streets at 14 yet his mother said he was a good kid 

[Bearfoot 1,477]

There seems to be a rize in the golly wogs stay safe lads stick to your own dont out x

[riohog 5,714]

3 minutes ago, mackem said:

The TV actually speculated yesterday on whether the random stabbing was his gang initiation,we cant fathom something like that,cant understand that mindset,but that's certain sectors of failed Britain,failed not by the state,we as individuals are nothing to do with other families kids,we cant guide them or reprimand them,the root cause is two people,their biological parents,look at that feral kid the 14 year old with the moped,loads of cash,out all hours,kicked out of several schools,,riding a moped around the streets at 14 yet his mother said he was a good kid 

becouse  his parent know no better  they were bought up in the same enviroment  , the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

[TOMO 26,264]

2 minutes ago, Bearfoot said:

There seems to be a rize in the golly wogs stay safe lads stick to your own dont out x

to late for me....

[Bearfoot 1,477]

I ike my dogs hard mouthed mate il stick to.the old methods u have nice family tomo yr one of us 

[gnasher16 30,191]

28 minutes ago, socks said:

Do you not think that if funding was spent on youth clubs football coaching boxing gyms etc in deprived areas so that the youth have somewhere to go instead of running wild things would improve ??? .......

In a word.....no........i very much doubt theres an area of the country with as many amateur boxing clubs,football clubs and boys clubs in general than the parts of London these spades are bowling about killing each other in......but they just dont have the humbleness,guts,determination or work ethic to walk into what might be a slightly intimidating gym atmosphere and start from the bottom.....( not all blacks obviously but the majority )......if theres one thing London doesnt need its more funding for sport & leisure ....state of the art gyms and sports centres are cropping up all over the place.

The reality is black youths wear a knife the way we wear a t shirt......they feel naked without one,simple.

 

[waltjnr 6,836]

I thought early on it might be an initiation to a gang ,then just assumed the perpetrator approached the group of girls was rebuked and stabbed one in anger ?

[gnasher16 30,191]

24 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

from what ive read/heard ,the young white teen girl was just randomly stabbed in the back ,once caught what do you's think the punishment should be for the person caught for this crime ? I personally feel that as we've no death penalty ,life in solitary would be apt ,you dont go up and just plunge a knife into a girls back snuffing out a young life ,not if your a sane civilized member  of the human race! 

If they are British give them life......if they are immigrants give them life and deport their entire family.....make these people start raising their kids knowing their will be repercussions for f****n up in a foreign land.

[waltjnr 6,836]

i blame Forged in Fire ,before that im sure they wernt stabbing each other up so much

[Born Hunter 17,775]

44 minutes ago, socks said:

Do you not think that if funding was spent on youth clubs football coaching boxing gyms etc in deprived areas so that the youth have somewhere to go instead of running wild things would improve ??? .......

I don't know shit about the mentality of poor black gang bangers so my opinion hardly counts for much but for what it's worth I reckon that would go a long way to improving society generally. Kids (and adults for that matter) need idols that are decent human beings, people who demonstrate and value pride, dignity, loyalty, honour, strength, humility, knowledge, compassion, community spirit etc. The sort of virtues that should define a gentleman and a citizen. Idols who can demonstrate the pride that comes from resisting the temptation to cheat your neighbour because you haven't the grit to do a job honourably. Idols don't have to be celebrities, in fact they probably shouldn't be, they should be those decent honest folk who demonstrate that everyday in your community.

I think society has a problem with valuing the wrong things, strength seems to be thought to come from being a savage when it should be seen in the man who stands up to the savage.

Simply put, there's a lot of focus on being the wolf and not the lamb, but there should be more value put on being the shepherd dog.

Edited March 6, 2019 by Born Hunter

[gnasher16 30,191]

23 minutes ago, Blackbriar said:

A loss of over 20,000 police officers over the last 10 years MUST play apart in this ? If there is less likelihood of being caught, you're more likely to break the law and, therefore, have less respect for the law ? But that, for me, is just one part of a larger puzzle.

I'm not excusing criminality in  any way, and I may be oversimplifying this, but here's my take...............

From an early age, most of the youngsters we're talking about here, begin at a disadvantage. I can't cite a source, but I remember reading that around 25% of kids from urban,  single parent families don't even know who their dad is, let alone have any contact with him ! They have no positive male influence in their lives and unavoidably mix with other kids in the same position. Their common belief is (rightly or wrongly)) that they have no future, no prospects and that education is a waste of time. Their mums can't, or won't, keep them out of trouble, schools don't have any meaningful discipline, so they get excluded and sent to a Pupil Referral Unit - these are little more than gang grooming centres ! In their spare time, they have no productive use of their time, so they congregate together, disrupting the local community. Big Bad Leroy comes along in his flash car, offers them a handful of notes to hide a parcel for a couple of days, or drop a box off down the road, and they are slowly sucked into a dysfunctional lifestyle, where violence and criminality become 'normal'. There's large-scale evidence that, if they refuse to cooperate, they are threatened, bullied and coerced into compliance, by a previous generation, who fell into the same traps. If they're caught with a knife (easy to obtain, easy to hide), there's no real penalty for the first couple of occasions so, again, no sanctions, no discipline, no reason to rethink your choices. And besides, the chances of getting caught are minimal, as the police are strangers to their neighbourhoods, in the normal course of things.......

So, as I see it, there isn't a 'crisis' that will be solved by a single initiative. There's a whole web of pitfalls, that mesh together over time and too many youngsters get mired into it, and can't find a way out !

 

Do you think being poorly brought up in a shit area is exclusive to blacks ?