tatsblisters 9,541 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 I think this fekin idiot knew her days are numberd .https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-smith-politics-live-apology-bme-video-labour-independent-group-a8785141.html . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,063 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 I have to laugh the way steadfast Labour supporters ( and northerners ) are slowly trying to distance themselves from new labour talking like they are so much different to the old days ........old days nothing they have always been f****n idiots you just couldnt see it ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,734 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: I have to laugh the way steadfast Labour supporters ( and northerners ) are slowly trying to distance themselves from new labour talking like they are so much different to the old days ........old days nothing they have always been f****n idiots you just couldnt see it ! And I wonder how many hunters / field sports participants still vote for them 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ftm 3,357 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 6 hours ago, gnasher16 said: I have to laugh the way steadfast Labour supporters ( and northerners ) are slowly trying to distance themselves from new labour talking like they are so much different to the old days ........old days nothing they have always been f****n idiots you just couldnt see it ! Don't assume ALL northerners support Labour gnash . I despise them along with a now growing army of others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ted Newgent 4,896 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 New look of the labour party 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigzy 1,298 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 8 hours ago, gnasher16 said: I have to laugh the way steadfast Labour supporters ( and northerners ) are slowly trying to distance themselves from new labour talking like they are so much different to the old days ........old days nothing they have always been f****n idiots you just couldnt see it ! I know there are still 1,000s of northerners that vote Labour just because their dads and grandads did, and there is still the diehard knuckle draggers that would vote for a monkey with a red rosette , they ACTUALY did in Hartlepool !!! But I don't know many up here who want Corbyn to be PM, .......his support is the champagne socialists and Islington lefties and of course London is now the Labour power base ! University Professors, students unions, lefty journalists and the media; these are the people who want Corbyn and his Marxists in power, not the working class north. If there was a viable choice, Labour would wither and die in the north, but the Miners strikes, pit and steelworks and shipyard closures are too fresh in the memory for people to even contemplate voting Tory, UKIP blew their chances and the LibDems stand on Brexit means the northern leavers will never vote for them. A sad state of affairs when there is nobody worth voting for ! 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,504 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Another one jumps https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47300832 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meece 1,957 Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 They might be jumping ship but they will still vote against brexit and if enough of them from all parties club together it won't help Theresa May get us out ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Anna Soubry, Sarah Wollaston and Heidi Allen have crossed the floor from the Tory side ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,541 Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, Blackbriar said: Anna Soubry, Sarah Wollaston and Heidi Allen have crossed the floor from the Tory side ! Probably form an anti Brexit party though I believe the Tory defectors will go back to their party once Brexit is over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: Probably form an anti Brexit party though I believe the Tory defectors will go back to their party once Brexit is over. Just a few observations........for what my opinion is worth ! This feels different to the formation of the SDP - at their height, they had 28 MPs, but only one was a former Tory. I expect a small number of Tories and another handful of Labour MPs to cross the floor yet. The one thing all 11 have in common is their Remain/People's Vote stance. The 3 Tories are now beyond the control of the party whips, but they were always going to try to stop Brexit, regardless of which bench they sit on, so the maths hasn't changed all that much for the Maybot. Most of the Labour defectors have consistently backed BrexitRef2, and would probably have been deselected and replaced by Corbyn disciples at the first opportunity. By rights, the LibDems should have picked these people up, but they are still tainted by the coalition, so the only option left open to the 11 was to form their own group. Do they have a long term future ? Personally, I doubt it ! As you said, the 3 (former) Tories are most likely to end up back in the party, while the Labour 8 have absolutely no future, while Corbyn maintains his stranglehold........ but once we leave the EU, the group will have no relevance anyway (as UKIP found out !). I expect the group to turn its focus on delaying Article 50, which buys some time to push for BrexitRef2.......... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meece 1,957 Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) The two groups that have jumped have different reasons but they all want us to stay in the eu. I don't understand this labour anti semitism thing . What's all that about ? The conservative group are just odd. Do the parties cut their support ? Are they told ..... clear your desk, can't use our party offices, stationary, phones, secretary's, organisation. In fact sling your hook? Your de selected? Edited February 20, 2019 by Meece Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Just now, Meece said: The two groups that have jumped have different reasons but they all don't want us to leave. I don't understand this labour anti semitism thing . What's all that about ? The conservative group are just odd. Do the parties cut their support ? Are they told ..... clear your desk, can't use our party offices, stationary, phones, secretary's, organisation. In fact sling your hook? Your de selected? A little insight into the "anti-Semitic thing".......... One of the reasons Joan Ryan joined the new group was the appalling abuse that the likes of Luciana Berger have been subjected to. At PMQs today, Chairman Jeremy said that anti-Semitism has no place in his party and condemned it wholeheartedly................meanwhile, Young Labour posted this tweet......... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6724087/Joan-Ryan-Gone-Palestine-Lives-Fury-Young-Labour-sends-gleeful-tweet-eighth-MP-quit.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,504 Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 This new party has the distinctive whiff of Gina Miller and her sugar daddy soros. It'll be interesting to see who the backers are...blairites rise again, I guarantee the cnut is in the background somewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,270 Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Gay Dave will pop up soon with his 100% unerringly accurate insightful political punditry announcing Corbyn is inches away from residing in No 10 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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