morton 5,368 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 The vast,vast majority of Beddy lurchers are bred from Non earth working Bedlingtons,usually more KC than anything else,ALL Bedlingtons have something else in the mix and i fail to understand the stance on pure KC working dross over A crossbred terrier that is more Bedlington,in conformation and work ethic than the vast,vast,vast majority of KC ribbon and dollar bred terriers.Ive read through this thread and it seems only the Beddy side of the Breeding is cause for concern and ridicule,if i ever bred a lurcher the dam and sire where as important.Hybrid vigour plays a massive part in the potential of any beddy lurcher and its a fact that many a pup bred from a piss poor Beddy and a failed Greyhound will be far superior,as an hunting companion,that either of its parents.If you wish for a better hunting Beddy lurcher id never own a first cross,lurcher to lurcher bred,bred for graft and not financial reward,is the only way forward.The only reason there is a massive market for commercial bred lurchers is that there is a massive amount of nuggets to buy them. 2 Quote Link to post
Str 793 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, poxon said: But we have so one dogs not enough from handjob?An 3 bedlington is not enough? I think your problem lays on my honest opinion having some truth behind it we don’t all want to hang of the cocks of peddling celebritys. Tell me more take it you still keep handjob bred dogs? There not your dogs yes or no? You’ve made claims you can’t back up, if I didn’t know better your jealous of Hancock etc. Quote Link to post
Bush Rummager 4,760 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, poxon said: Any minute now str will spit his dummy out an offer me a straightener over dogs in the nearest car park for £1000 or a dogging contest to prove my worth ... Ahhh... come on lad's.. lets all play nice on here!! 1 Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,804 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Shake hands lads Cheers, D. 1 Quote Link to post
Str 793 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, dytkos said: Shake hands lads Cheers, D. Your right dykos, I was just trying to point out you should speak from first hand experience not hear say. 2 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Dont get all the names all you want is hard working dogs for the quarry of your choice and just work.them and enjoy them 3 Quote Link to post
Bush Rummager 4,760 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, morton said: The vast,vast majority of Beddy lurchers are bred from Non earth working Bedlingtons,usually more KC than anything else,ALL Bedlingtons have something else in the mix and i fail to understand the stance on pure KC working dross over A crossbred terrier that is more Bedlington,in conformation and work ethic than the vast,vast,vast majority of KC ribbon and dollar bred terriers.Ive read through this thread and it seems only the Beddy side of the Breeding is cause for concern and ridicule,if i ever bred a lurcher the dam and sire where as important.Hybrid vigour plays a massive part in the potential of any beddy lurcher and its a fact that many a pup bred from a piss poor Beddy and a failed Greyhound will be far superior,as an hunting companion,that either of its parents.If you wish for a better hunting Beddy lurcher id never own a first cross,lurcher to lurcher bred,bred for graft and not financial reward,is the only way forward.The only reason there is a massive market for commercial bred lurchers is that there is a massive amount of nuggets to buy them. Mort.. does hybrid vigour still occur then even though the beddy isn't 'pure'?? Genuine question. I've still got all major limbs attached.. so not officially a nugget just yet. P.s... don't bite my f@@king head off!! Edited March 3, 2019 by Bush Rummager 1 Quote Link to post
poxon 5,748 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Str said: There not your dogs yes or no? You’ve made claims you can’t back up, if I didn’t know better your jealous of Hancock etc. Family dogs so yes an no but can’t back up either as there no longer here because they were shit!! Must be jealous of Hancock then that must be it I’m jealous ffs sake jealous of a old peddler of collie x cast racing greyhounds that would sell to any old c**t if they flash the cash I’ve heard it all now. You still ain’t answered my question you still running a hand job dog? Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Bush Rummager said: Mort.. does hybrid vigour still occur then even though the beddy isn't 'pure'?? Genuine question. I've still got all major limbs attached.. so not officially a nugget just yet. P.s... don't bit my f@@king head off!! Hybrid vigour rescues many a first cross breeding,it has a massive impact on the pups working potential and is responsible for rescuing what should in reality be a waste of puppy flesh.Most breeds are not pure,the pedigree of any mutt is ink on paper,there are some right unscrupulous pen owners,especially when the till tinkles. 1 Quote Link to post
Str 793 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, poxon said: Family dogs so yes an no but can’t back up either as there no longer here because they were shit!! Must be jealous of Hancock then that must be it I’m jealous ffs sake jealous of a old peddler of collie x cast racing greyhounds that would sell to any old c**t if they flash the cash I’ve heard it all now. You still ain’t answered my question you still running a hand job dog? No I am not. Quote Link to post
poxon 5,748 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Str said: No I am not. what you running? Quote Link to post
Str 793 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, poxon said: what you running? I don’t have a lurcher now , terrier & gundogs. 1 Quote Link to post
poxon 5,748 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Str said: I don’t have a lurcher now , terrier & gundogs. Can we kiss an make up now? Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, jackthelad said: Iv saw 2 Plummer lurchers work on uist a bitch called merab and a young dog called goose if I remember right this was over 15 years ago and for the rabbit job they were excellent we took over hundred rabbits that night with them 2 lurchers .... good coats on them cracking feet stamina to burn handy dogs... also excellent ferreting dogs That would be merrab 2 I guess. I saw Plummers original merrab ferreting, she was exceptional at marking. Her daughter pheadra was a handy thing too. Known several others that were superb lurchers on a variety of quarry. Quote Link to post
Frosty79 75 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Were they collie greyhound's or was there anything else in there make up? Quote Link to post
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