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[BIG TRG 785]

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Edited August 6, 2021 by BIG TRG
Wrong wording

[Apache... 2,588]

The way I do things is all the ragging and rewarding are done in the first year then after that it's dig to my dog open up and pull them out as soon as, no rag or reward in and out.

[Corkman 944]

Nobody does that as it would be illegal. Pest Foxes would need to be dealt with humanely. Moving live animals would leave Terriermen open to accusations of cruelty and baiting and can only be done under permit. 

It is sad that ANTIs don't realise the stupidity in what they wish for! As hunters now cannot move healthy pest animals safely to location they have to be dealt with. In the old days they could have been moved with little fuss or harm. The countryside needs to be managed and without hunting selectively removing the problem animals vermin species breed to epidemic proportions and the stupid government steeps in with Indiscriminate culs via shooting, snaring, poisons abd gassing at huge cost to the farmers and tax payers. When this was all done at zero cost or fuss for generations. 

The Antis should be ashamed of the unnecessary harm they cause and leave wildlife management to the hunting community. 

[Mr. Mxyzptlk 13]

Wise words

[howdeeposxxt 1,448]

A reward what the f**k. I've never given a reward at any stage they seem happy enough to been underground taking its quarry on. Sorry but a reward we ain't in the Kennel club on this site buddy. OMG holy shit I hope this don't come into the terrier game as well.

[rob284 1,682]

I’ve never rewarded, as soon as I’ve broke through I remove the dog, his job is done and he should be keen to go again regardless if he’s had a shake of a carcass. Sure some lads do it differently and let the dogs rag a carcass but I don’t see the need, seen a few good dogs that wouldn’t bother with a dead fox.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

Well put Rob, the best digging dogs I’ve seen had little or no interest in a dead fox. And some of the shittiest, cowardly dogs I’ve seen would rag one like it’s life depended on it.

Edited to add, when it was legal we would always let the quarry run, I often thought it fired the dog up more than just shoot and give a rag.

Edited January 23, 2019 by Rabbit Hunter

[dogmandont 9,833]

7 hours ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

Well put Rob, the best digging dogs I’ve seen had little or no interest in a dead fox. And some of the shittiest, cowardly dogs I’ve seen would rag one like it’s life depended on it.

Edited to add, when it was legal we would always let the quarry run, I often thought it fired the dog up more than just shoot and give a rag.

I said it on here before rh that the best bitch I ever owned never put a tooth in a fox above the sod simply had no interest. 

[downsouth 7,307]

10 hours ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

Well put Rob, the best digging dogs I’ve seen had little or no interest in a dead fox. And some of the shittiest, cowardly dogs I’ve seen would rag one like it’s life depended on it.

Edited to add, when it was legal we would always let the quarry run, I often thought it fired the dog up more than just shoot and give a rag.

Would that Brock dog off me rag a dead one?His mother wouldnt even sniff one once it was dead.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

8 hours ago, downsouth said:

Would that Brock dog off me rag a dead one?His mother wouldnt even sniff one once it was dead.

No he was the same, didn’t care for a dead one. 

Edited January 24, 2019 by Rabbit Hunter

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

The original question is does it do any harm to not reward a dog with a rag and the answer is no it doesn’t .Personally I think if you start a pup off by teasing it with a carcass then it will always be a ragger .Starting a pup the natural way ie no encouragement at all by an earth usually makes for an animal that  sees the work as it’s calling and not the end of the job .However ,any terrier can be wound up enough to rag a carcass ,it’s in their nature especially if joined by another .Ive owned both ,it’s not easy keeping some off a dead fox when they are screaming in your ear .

[Apache... 2,588]

It's in any dog whatever breed to naturally rag things, a little encouragement as pups does no harm I think, a few rats and a bit of bushing will get any late starters going, but only as pups once they know the score I stop. The best dogs I've had wouldn't look at anything dead no matter how much encouragement you gave them.

[Ace Boone coon 648]

On 22/01/2019 at 13:39, howdeeposxxt said:

A reward what the f**k. I've never given a reward at any stage they seem happy enough to been underground taking its quarry on. Sorry but a reward we ain't in the Kennel club on this site buddy. OMG holy shit I hope this don't come into the terrier game as well.

I agree the work is the reward and only reward.  Imagine keeping kibble in your pocket and at the end you open it up and say good boy as your shaking the bag of treats and he come running out to get them!  Hahahaha

[dillydog 8,463]

I think some of you boys are taking the  "reward" the wrong way, I'm pretty sure the original poster meant the carcass as the "reward".

It does no harm what so ever, I've had plenty that won't touch them and even more that can't get enough in their mouths.  Back in the day I've let loose plenty of foxes, I either let the youngsters watch it run down the field or let the fox have fair law then tip the youngster loose to chase it and hunt it once it looses sight. It does wonders for their confidence and it's reward enough instead of killing everything as the stupid laws dictate. 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

3 hours ago, dillydog said:

I think some of you boys are taking the  "reward" the wrong way, I'm pretty sure the original poster meant the carcass as the "reward".

It does no harm what so ever, I've had plenty that won't touch them and even more that can't get enough in their mouths.  Back in the day I've let loose plenty of foxes, I either let the youngsters watch it run down the field or let the fox have fair law then tip the youngster loose to chase it and hunt it once it looses sight. It does wonders for their confidence and it's reward enough instead of killing everything as the stupid laws dictate. 

What ,am I the only one that  gives them treats  when  they come out when called .