Lab x grey

[trigger2 3,145]

I grew up learning the ropes with a lab cross mate. Had her gifted to us as a young bitch she was a hell of a good all round edible game animal, didn’t realise what we had got until my later years. Damn was a lab and the sire a collie cross of some description. Totally accidental breeding I believe. If the chance of another come up when I am next looking for a pup then I would snap one straight up from my previous experience.

[Pirate 9000 676]

Lad used to write articles in earth dog under the name graylab, good dog man out of the game now.

[Born Hunter 17,783]

As much as I prefer the old fashioned cobby sort of Lab, do you think the modern slim trialling sort be the best base?

A lass who beats for me trials Labs and has one that she uses for exclusively for beating that looks like a lurcher itself!

There's plenty of shite looking Labs about too.

Edited December 21, 2018 by Born Hunter

[bird 9,941]

3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

As much as I prefer the old fashioned cobby sort of Lab, do you think the modern slim trialling sort be the best base?

A lass who beats for me trials Labs and has one that she uses for exclusively for beating that looks like a lurcher itself!

There's plenty of shite looking Labs about too.

you right mate , ive seen fair few by me on my walks, and when i did beating , the working lab very differnt type lab, alot more racy in build, smaller head , and very full on type temp, the show type are big heads and thick set body's, no the working type lab x back to greyhound or lurcher make very good dog  one thing i will say though the temp of few labs i bumped into have been dog aggressive  , had 3 feckers go for my big dog . it either in the breeding or poor training, because when beating  you get in the landy  with 6 dogs all by each other no probs, these were working type labs, plus the owners were on top of the dogs, not like some pet owners  .

[Pirate 9000 676]

You definitely would want to pick your Labrador, you would want racy sort, not some fat show stock,JD rated his above any lurchers he had seen since,and he would have seen a few dogs in is time.

[trenchfoot 4,243]

45 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

As much as I prefer the old fashioned cobby sort of Lab, do you think the modern slim trialling sort be the best base?

A lass who beats for me trials Labs and has one that she uses for exclusively for beating that looks like a lurcher itself!

There's plenty of shite looking Labs about too.

I personally would prefer a non trial bred dog. They old style, labs don't seem to need much direction when it comes to hunting up for unmarked retrieves and have greater endurance. Where as the trial bred dogs burn out far quicker when faced with a lot of graft

 

[Born Hunter 17,783]

16 minutes ago, trenchfoot said:

I personally would prefer a non trial bred dog. They old style, labs don't seem to need much direction when it comes to hunting up for unmarked retrieves and have greater endurance. Where as the trial bred dogs burn out far quicker when faced with a lot of graft

 

I'm not a fan of the trialling trends either but I just wonder if the confirmation of those lines would lend itself better to lurcher breeding?

[Councilestatekid 1,922]

1 hour ago, bird said:

you right mate , ive seen fair few by me on my walks, and when i did beating , the working lab very differnt type lab, alot more racy in build, smaller head , and very full on type temp, the show type are big heads and thick set body's, no the working type lab x back to greyhound or lurcher make very good dog  one thing i will say though the temp of few labs i bumped into have been dog aggressive  , had 3 feckers go for my big dog . it either in the breeding or poor training, because when beating  you get in the landy  with 6 dogs all by each other no probs, these were working type labs, plus the owners were on top of the dogs, not like some pet owners  .

My labs temperament is totally soft and friendly with anyone or animal he's never been a bother and when a thread came up before I said I didn't know what a lab would bring to the table.well the other night the mrs took him out around 2130 up the lane when a chap came up behind her(innocently I may add just happened to be walking that way)well she said our lab spun round before she knew the chap was there snarling and barked a few time said all hairs on his back stood up the chap shit himself poor fellow guess his protective side kicked in as he was alone with her in the dark strange thing is she said last night a young lass came past and he didn't bother his arse

[trenchfoot 4,243]

24 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

I'm not a fan of the trialling trends either but I just wonder if the confirmation of those lines would lend itself better to lurcher breeding?

You may be right. A first cross may well be more pleasing to the eye, But if I was trying to breed a lurcher with some of the attributes of a good lab, Id rather use a lab that has those attributes in abundance first and foremost. 

[Str 793]

This is my old lad Dan long gone now but a great dog he was out of Sam of Drakeshead trialling lines , he’s just the sort of dog you want over a greyhound.labs are greedy dogs but when marking game down I could push a pork pie in his face and he wouldn’t take it he was that focused on marking birds no joke,show labs are a world away from modern working labs,regards trialling labs needing more handling that’s not something that’s been bred in it’s brought on by over handling the dog in the first place instead of letting the dog hunt around it’s self,some owners never have the whistle out there mouths which spoils good dogs.

[TALKCHEAP 183]

6 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

As much as I prefer the old fashioned cobby sort of Lab, do you think the modern slim trialling sort be the best base?

A lass who beats for me trials Labs and has one that she uses for exclusively for beating that looks like a lurcher itself!

There's plenty of shite looking Labs about too.

its well over 30 year ago but i do remember the mother to triggers lab x , was smaller than the average and fine , but it was a pure bred .

[Tyla 3,179]

I had a lab before I got involved with lurchers. My very first dog and he taught me alot, I didn't realise at the time but he was some thing special. Would beat and pick up well and once killed a fox in front of the line of guns. He could be a dick with other male dogs though.

Would you use a lab as sire or dam?

[Dinosaurs 2,101]

My first dog was a lab collie cross no idea of percentages as got her from a rescue. She caught good fee rbts on lamp & daytime & found pheasants very well. Also very protective of me & my wife. Great first dog . Atb

[Moocher71 4,050]

A lad I know got a collie hound x lab hound ,he got it of jb who breeds Norfolk types .far as I know dog ticking all the boxes ,to be honest it looks bit like bull x .

[Str 793]

1 hour ago, Dinosaurs said:

My first dog was a lab collie cross no idea of percentages as got her from a rescue. She caught good fee rbts on lamp & daytime & found pheasants very well. Also very protective of me & my wife. Great first dog . Atb

My mate had a first cross collie x lab he bought it from a farmer in Yorkshire dales were he used to beat & shoot rabbits,it looked like a smooth black collie very racie in build but taller, I remember saying to him it looks like a lurcher he replied it’s better than a lurcher and laughed.ive been on quite a few walks with this dog and it was mustard on rabbits around brambles it was a very good dog.