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This lad was owned by a very good mate saw him take a good number of fallow 

Saw a good few of this cross on deer,once they have a hold of them there not letting go ,this bitch was the same cross and she put a few away pre ban 

The fastest of lurchers will be straight lined by a fallow at some point in their career if they run enough of them.

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On ‎25‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 13:43, fireman said:

On arable land yeah any old lurcher can/should catch them,on flooded water meadow every day at them soon shows whats half decent of that i'll give you that joe,lol.

Surely that's the terrain making them look better than what they are?

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Back in the day,it was not a question of if your dog would take a deer, it was just getting on land that actually held deer, I,ve always been in Bristol, and today I can walk across the road and find deer in most bits of wasteland  but back in the day I would have to be driving down to Salisbury or Yeovil  just to see one, a round trip of over a hundred miles usually in a mk1/2 ford escort van that may or may not make the journey without breaking down, then finding somewhere safe to hide the van for the night,  then it was running the gauntlet of getting back to Bristol with a van full of deer dogs and lads without getting pulled over by plod, a full 12hr night out might of got you a couple of deer if you were lucky, we never really had deer dogs, just good game dogs  that would take one if you were lucky enough to see one, Fox,s on the other hand were everywhere and wearing a £25 fur coat so made a much more attractive proposition, ?

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2 minutes ago, The return said:

?? why is that. If  you where running about fighting all day and eating less meaning they are weaker it's a simple fact hormones don't make you stronger. 

Adrenaline would make up for that I'm sure you are only on here to wind people up and course arguments as that's all you seem to do 

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1 minute ago, Saltmoon said:

Adrenaline would make up for that I'm sure you are only on here to wind people up and course arguments as that's all you seem to do 

Adrenaline can only take you so far fighting all day it would take it out you would it not them when they are trying to gain back there strength you get people lamping them in there jeeps 

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1 minute ago, The return said:

Adrenaline can only take you so far fighting all day it would take it out you would it not them when they are trying to gain back there strength you get people lamping them in there jeeps 

I don't know all that much about it to be honest and don't pretend to but from what I know they arnt fighting all day they may have a few ruts in a day or none. The people who go round in there jeeps driving them half way round the world so there knackered arnt real hunters and you'll find alot on here do not agree with that 

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Just now, The return said:

?? why is that. If  you where running about fighting all day and eating less meaning they are weaker it's a simple fact hormones don't make you stronger. 

Hormones do my old china thought you were a roider with ginger hair ??....in the rut they are a lot more aggressive and prob first week are at peak condition, even after they start losing condition the extra aggression pushes them on  ,  as it goes on come the end they are out on their feet and many a time you can just walk up to them as they don't know what day it is but are in a bad state come the final bell   , 

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Just now, Saltmoon said:

I don't know all that much about it to be honest and don't pretend to but from what I know they arnt fighting all day they may have a few ruts in a day or none. The people who go round in there jeeps driving them half way round the world so there knackered arnt real hunters and you'll find alot on here do not agree with that 

All am saying is they are weaker not saying they ain't more aggressive but too many people with puffed out chests

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1 minute ago, The return said:

All am saying is they are weaker not saying they ain't more aggressive but too many people with puffed out chests

I can see them getting weaker as it goes on but surly at the start of the rut they are at there most dangerous as they will have eaten and they are aggressive but as they go on then would get more tierd and weaker 

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1 minute ago, Big Ron said:

Hormones do my old china thought you were a roider with ginger hair ??....in the rut they are a lot more aggressive and prob first week are at peak condition, even after they start losing condition the extra aggression pushes them on  ,  as it goes on come the end they are out on their feet and many a time you can just walk up to them as they don't know what day it is but are in a bad state come the final bell   , 

Tryed the roids once never agreed with me got grey hair now.so the statement about deer in the rut being the best is not true 

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