Deer dogs

[Aussie Whip 4,125]

Where I've moved to now is overrun with fallow,Often a dozen or more in my closest paddock some mornings, no rabbits sadly.Know a few locals with 3/4 grey 1/4 bulls and they don't keep their dogs for show.

[shaaark 10,876]

1 hour ago, joe ox said:

How tall and what build weight did a lurcher need to be to take deer back in the day?

This tall and that build . Back in the day, same as now really I suppose, people weren't that bothered really as to what 'exactly' was in their deer hunting dogs. As I've said, and as far as I know, it was more a case of 'he/she's a good dog' let's mate em. Then the resultant offspring would then have been tried, but not always , on a few species of deer. They were still good dogs, even though some were never tried on deer

Edited December 20, 2018 by shaaark

[Chaff 3,622]

7 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Who cares it’s ancient history now

On the plus side the rats are getting bigger 

[Aussie Whip 4,125]

I've hunted all types of feral animals here and there's no hunting that beats ratting with the terriers imo.

[billhardy 2,342]

4 hours ago, shaaark said:

This tall and that build . Back in the day, same as now really I suppose, people weren't that bothered really as to what 'exactly' was in their deer hunting dogs. As I've said, and as far as I know, it was more a case of 'he/she's a good dog' let's mate em. Then the resultant offspring would then have been tried, but not always , on a few species of deer. They were still good dogs, even though some were never tried on deer

 

4 hours ago, shaaark said:

This tall and that build . Back in the day, same as now really I suppose, people weren't that bothered really as to what 'exactly' was in their deer hunting dogs. As I've said, and as far as I know, it was more a case of 'he/she's a good dog' let's mate em. Then the resultant offspring would then have been tried, but not always , on a few species of deer. They were still good dogs, even though some were never tried on deer

I see where joe coming from but certain breed types in a jukel and how they go about there business fa some matters having a broken up carcass his like having a broken up coney only good fa do meat the preban days having a jukel that killed cleanly was a much more prized jukel like the old saying goes  I know when going down the dealers ta scales condition of carcass matters hunting preban was specialt type hunters game.breed wise the introduction of herding blood  adds the running brain plus running fallow around the forestry also the herding breeds have that something in there make up that makes em suitable fa the Venice jukel seen deerhound types seen bull xs types preban nothing compared ta a good herding type xs and the bigger type the better alsation xs Neva needed another breed added but that don't mean the xs Cana be bettered because they all can with just a drop of the right bull blood.atb bill

[Penda 3,341]

11 minutes ago, billhardy said:

 

I see where joe coming from but certain breed types in a jukel and how they go about there business fa some matters having a broken up carcass his like having a broken up coney only good fa do meat the preban days having a jukel that killed cleanly was a much more prized jukel like the old saying goes  I know when going down the dealers ta scales condition of carcass matters hunting preban was specialt type hunters game.breed wise the introduction of herding blood  adds the running brain plus running fallow around the forestry also the herding breeds have that something in there make up that makes em suitable fa the Venice jukel seen deerhound types seen bull xs types preban nothing compared ta a good herding type xs and the bigger type the better alsation xs Neva needed another breed added but that don't mean the xs Cana be bettered because they all can with just a drop of the right bull blood.atb bill

My mate who's no longer with us had a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 shepherd and she was meant to of been hell of a deer dog and fox in 1 week she took 7 fox off 1 spot on her own very quick bitch just had the knack of dropping them deer with no effort 

[joe ox 2,602]

Was bigger better for deer back in the day?

[Big Ron 1,157]

50 minutes ago, joe ox said:

Was bigger better for deer back in the day?

Just keep polishing them Albergs to keep them in good order they will last you years .

Edited December 20, 2018 by Big Ron

[billhardy 2,342]

3 hours ago, Penda said:

My mate who's no longer with us had a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 shepherd and she was meant to of been hell of a deer dog and fox in 1 week she took 7 fox off 1 spot on her own very quick bitch just had the knack of dropping them deer with no effort 

 

1 hour ago, joe ox said:

Was bigger better for deer back in the day?

I see it like this all things being equal a good big un will out perform the smaller types but I'll say this there his a limit where outrageous size becomes disadvantageous  those that have the experience know seen deerhound type killed by fallow .like I says herding types were the best I have seen and I have seen a few old types and modern breeds the herders reign supreme.atb bill

[joe ox 2,602]

30 minutes ago, Big Ron said:

Just keep polishing them Albergs to keep them in good order they will last you years .

Best boots I have ever had mate am onto me second pair, the uppers no problem never leaked even though I never polished them that much, I've wore the soles out in a year though. Just as cheap to buy a brand new pair of army issue off ebay as it is to get them resoled.

[joe ox 2,602]

1 minute ago, billhardy said:

 

I see it like this all things being equal a good big un will out perform the smaller types but I'll say this there his a limit where outrageous size becomes disadvantageous  those that have the experience know seen deerhound type killed by fallow .like I says herding types were the best I have seen and I have seen a few old types and modern breeds the herders reign supreme.atb bill

Bill what was your ideal height/weight? I liked around 25/26tts running weight about 60/70lb

[billhardy 2,342]

Just now, joe ox said:

Bill what was your ideal height/weight? I liked around 25/26tts running weight about 60/70lb

Near enough same maybey inch upper level  maybey few pounds heavier males bitches  one a were bothered with only ran males back then and if I was back then it would be a male again feck the bitches lol.atb bill

[billhardy 2,342]

14 minutes ago, joe ox said:

Best boots I have ever had mate am onto me second pair, the uppers no problem never leaked even though I never polished them that much, I've wore the soles out in a year though. Just as cheap to buy a brand new pair of army issue off ebay as it is to get them resoled.

Best boots in the world thems what I been using fa time bit spit and polish I the tops breath life again atb bill

[joe ox 2,602]

10 minutes ago, billhardy said:

Near enough same maybey inch upper level  maybey few pounds heavier males bitches  one a were bothered with only ran males back then and if I was back then it would be a male again feck the bitches lol.atb bill

Once they start getting over that they don't seem as versatile, bit of a tumble and a few forward rolls their not up and back in action as quick IMO those few seconds can make all the difference.

Edited December 20, 2018 by joe ox

[billhardy 2,342]

4 hours ago, Penda said:

My mate who's no longer with us had a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 shepherd and she was meant to of been hell of a deer dog and fox in 1 week she took 7 fox off 1 spot on her own very quick bitch just had the knack of dropping them deer with no effort 

Penda was she local bred ta you   Would you knowatbbill