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3 hours ago, Hands of Stone said:

Letting a pup have a look in a stop end is a good way to find out if your dog WANTS to go to ground. Especially if quarry is a bit scarce.  Its always better when a pup drops in and finds on its own but some times you need to set things up in a pups favour

Id find your first statement completely wrong. Nearly every dog will work something in a stop very well, but 90% of those dogs won’t enter to ground because they don’t want to, it has no relation to the wanting to go to ground and it doesn’t give you an indicator of if your dog will work or wants it.

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3 hours ago, rob284 said:

Id find your first statement completely wrong. Nearly every dog will work something in a stop very well, but 90% of those dogs won’t enter to ground because they don’t want to, it has no relation to the wanting to go to ground and it doesn’t give you an indicator of if your dog will work or wants it.

Not just about it being in a stop end or the corner shop. It’s about introducing the prey to the dog no matter where it is. Could be in a bramble bush. Nowt wrong with letting a pup see it’s work. Will know by the pups reaction if it’s got the drive or not. Be pulling like mad on the lead baying at it. If it’s not and it’s trying to run away then you probably wouldn’t even try it to ground because the thing will be looking for the fire escape rather than pressuring the prey to bolt.

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I have seen dogs that rattle anything on top but under the sod cowards at best if you can tell by a pup pulling at quarry on a hole end as drive fair play to you its all different ball game in the dark as you know plus it's illeagal to bait what about if it doesn't want to bolt 

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22 hours ago, Hands of Stone said:

Letting a pup have a look in a stop end is a good way to find out if your dog WANTS to go to ground. Especially if quarry is a bit scarce.  Its always better when a pup drops in and finds on its own but some times you need to set things up in a pups favour

Most dogs have big balls when there's light it's in the dark that counts , what dose hole ending really lean a dog ? Seen it f**k dogs up not willing to fine or can't fine in big spots 

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achieves nothing imo....out dated practice that's used by those who know no better......there are far more productive things you could be doing to get a youngdog going.seems that lately on here theres a few folk who don't think before engaging their lips?days of knocking doors and getting let on to dig are numbered imo.....most be better off finding a different hobby?

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3 hours ago, Daniel cain said:

achieves nothing imo....out dated practice that's used by those who know no better......there are far more productive things you could be doing to get a youngdog going.seems that lately on here theres a few folk who don't think before engaging their lips?days of knocking doors and getting let on to dig are numbered imo.....most be better off finding a different hobby?

Well think we can all agree that the terrier section on here is a pointless read for anyone wanting to learn anything. Nobody wants to talk terrier work through fear of any repurcussions. Times have changed and not for the better. It’s a shame. Country has gone soft. May aswel get rid of this section.

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11 hours ago, dillydog said:

That's the best answer so far, kick it into the long grass where it belongs,  this site and many like it have done untold damage as it is.............I'm only here to keep my eye on you dumb fucks

Yea may get it replaced with something else like  KNOB HEAD SECTION cause I wouldn't be happy if they cancelled my entertainment 

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A good little terrier pup will work its way through the list rats,rabbits squirrels then it scent old charlie one day and naturally do its thing. Once you to that point you can keep it leaded up and go earth checking. You can't force the issue. In the early days you want things to go the dogs way easily nice shallow earths on braken banks or small hedge row ones so you can get down quick. Just my vague memories of it all

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