Billy b 816 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, bird said: thats interesting with wilder , with his weight, he said him self, that he not a big heavyweight he was only 15st 3lb in that fight and not far of his natural weight, as you say more like big cruiser . i wonder if he puts another 1 st on if be lot slower in movement ,fury prob beat him alot easier, ok wilder might hit that bit harder , and if he did catch fury this time he might not get up, bit of risk but fury still beat him . wilder like the old heavyweights of 25 yeas ago 15-16st , today there more like 16-19st , think Aj fight at 16-17st , i think he better at 16st me self . all boxers should try to fight around there natural weight , and not blow up and become slow, thats what happened to Haye , he was natural cruiser , not a true heavy so lost is agility/speed to gain bit more power to get the big pay check in the heavyweight div.!! All good points mate, time will tell with wilder how he'll fight with the Extra weight and I agree with you about fighting at natural weight being better for fighters 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,027 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, shaaark said: Well, when leeroy caldwell, who fought both foreman and shavers says shavers was the hardest hitter he fought BY FAR, that's good enough for me I don’t doubt that but could he withstand the onslaught from foreman where norton was ranked a top hitter couldn’t. Shame the 2 never met 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,003 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Billy b said: All good points mate, time will tell with wilder how he'll fight with the Extra weight and I agree with you about fighting at natural weight being better for fighters Well I had fury beating wilder this time, and I believe he'll do it again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billy b 816 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, shaaark said: Well I had fury beating wilder this time, and I believe he'll do it again Fair play, and good luck to you if you have a bet I had tyson last time and I think he'll be Better prepared and win each to their own, no malice in these discussions for me , its all a laugh and a bit of light hearted torment at the end of the day ain't it If we all backed the same horse it'd be rubbish wouldn't it 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,003 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, Billy b said: Fair play, and good luck to you if you have a bet I had tyson last time and I think he'll be Better prepared and win each to their own, no malice in these discussions for me , its all a laugh and a bit of light hearted torment at the end of the day ain't it If we all backed the same horse it'd be rubbish wouldn't it Exactly lol, I certainly don't wish any malice on anyone. For example, I personally think amir kahn could move up to cruiser and propably beat usyck, he certainly wouldn't get knocked out by him ........... .............. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 3,964 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Who do you lot fancy in the Khan v Brook fight? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,003 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, stealthy1 said: Who do you lot fancy in the Khan v Brook fight? Is it happening 100%? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billy b 816 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Years ago, when it should've took place idve backed brook heavily to spark Khan, and he still can if he lands, but for me at this point, I'd back Khan brooks a shadow of himself but personally the brook-Khan fight has very little interest for me now, that ship has sailed, too much messing about with them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 3,964 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, shaaark said: Is it happening 100%? Personally I don't think Khan should fight again, Canelo destroyed Khan, and it was grim when Khan got knocked out. I think Khan and Brooks will get it on, it's what the fans want, so they will dig deep and get their hands in their pockets and buy tickets. Khan's hand speed is the only thing that saves him, but I think if Brooks gets tagged he'll go down, but by the same token, but if Brooks tags glass jawed Khan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billy b 816 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 I honestly think it's more likely Khan will fight Crawford than brook He's been talking about it and it wouldn't be the first time he fights a more difficult opponent than brook rather than the actual brook fight itself 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,003 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: Lol all you want mate you can't even nail your colours to the mast on who is the Best Heavyweight around today never mind Shavers of yesteryear Kin el, it aint that hard to understand! I'm saying I DON'T RATE ANY OF TODAYS HEAVYWEIGHTS. They're all pretty average, as heavyweights go, and out of them all fury 'might' be the best. And IN MY OPINION, shavers would've knocked him into the new year, never mind down for six seconds!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,027 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Khan v brook. Khan will be saying I’m gone ko brook and brook will be thinking he’s gona hump khan, brook looks like a bender 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billy b 816 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: Khan v brook. Khan will be saying I’m gone ko brook and brook will be thinking he’s gona hump khan, brook looks like a bender Brooks got that look about him ain't he Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,314 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 They say a queer can always tell a queer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,003 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: But You said Fury wasn't the best of today's heavyweights so if in your mind he ain't the best you must have an opinion of who is Your favourite ride at the fair must've been the merrygoround!! I DON'T RATE ANY OF TODAYS HEAVYWEIGHTS AS 'THE' BEST, I said fury 'MIGHT' be the best, but that doesn't mean he is the best. Come on now, it really isn't that difficult to grasp. You just want everyone to agree with you, cos in your mind no-one else's opinion on fury matters. He was knocked down TWICE, by a far less than 'great' heavyweight in wilder. He beat a 5 years past his best klitschko, now all of a sudden, he's the best heavyweight since ali. He ISN'T, get over it. I forgot, we're being civilised, with no malice, so lol Edited December 12, 2018 by shaaark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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