bird 9,970 Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, fireman said: Don't think ray is being funny,he's just seen outwardly suffering at cancers hands and lost someone close to him to it,cancer can be seen with the eye either xray or mri scan so it's there in the physical.Mental illness cannot be seen with xray or any other sort of camera or the eye so it's naturaly hard for folk who don't have total understanding of mental illness to understand it and how it's as much a killer as cancer is..In general you can't compare the two.but human nature makes folk compare things against other things.. true, i do know mental illness is not just feeling down in the dumps , i had mate in 80s who hung him self with his own belt, he had probs with booze , drugs , few times , but was very fit strong bloke and seem to come through anything , always had a laugh and and pulled the women, but killed him self, was big shock when he died . so i do know the mind is a very powerful thing , but i know one thing though , i bet my sister partner wish he had the chose or chance of life, not like my mate who threw his away . like said being honest i am still down now, not bothered about , lurchers, hunting , most things in general right now i am very low , fookin wolves lost , that about done me tonight .!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,712 Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, bird said: true, i do know mental illness is not just feeling down in the dumps , i had mate in 80s who hung him self with his own belt, he had probs with booze , drugs , few times , but was very fit strong bloke and seem to come through anything , always had a laugh and and pulled the women, but killed him self, was big shock when he died . so i do know the mind is a very powerful thing , but i know one thing though , i bet my sister partner wish he had the chose or chance of life, not like my mate who threw his away . like said being honest i am still down now, not bothered about , lurchers, hunting , most things in general right now i am very low , fookin wolves lost , that about done me tonight .!! its absolutly horrible what happened to your brother in law but has zero to do with depression 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Wilkes 3,046 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 I was shown this vid which kind of made me realise what was happening ... the kind of dog we can all do without.. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,110 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) My son is 11 he's autistic and suffers severe anxiety to the fact he doesn't want to leave the house and if he does go even the shops he's looking down isles to see if anyone there but we are trying to get him out little trips but he has panic attacks melt downs nearly being sick but he wants to try but it's just his mindset I know lads with depression not get out of bed for days have zero energy don't even want to wash and just talking to them you relise just how dark that cloud is and how hard it is for them just to do things we take for granted Edited November 26, 2018 by Blackmag 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,400 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Biggest cause in the rise of depression is I think due to modern society. Years ago people were, not as some would say more content but blissfully ignorant, for as they say ignorance is bliss. The pressure is on now to be successful for we have been told with success comes happiness and as well as that not being the case when people fail at whatever chosen path now for whatever reason, then they consider themselves a failure and there can start the downward spiral. We are fed depression 24/7, when was the last time you read a good heart warming feel good story?, it's constant fecking doom and gloom and now we are getting to hear of world wide problems instead of just about the next village or town. Then you have the loss of big industries and factories which brought companionship and friendship often creating a social life as well, a good old chinwag with your work mates was a tonic, with all that gone people nowadays are way more insular and all this is lost to them which doesn't help matters. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevj 434 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) I had depression after a back injury left me in chronic pain.It had a big impact on my family.I couldn’t even go and collect kids from school without having anxiety attacks.My wife encouraged me to go to see my gp and consequently found the right medication and dosage to help towards getting my head straight.Its not a nice place to be.I have always been outgoing and confident but still needed help and support It still creeps back now and again especially when chatting to or out with At Edited November 26, 2018 by Kevj Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,555 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 well I wish any one with depression good luck ,and hopefully in the future there will be more help for them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,259 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 So is depression for no hopers fannys world on there shoulder types. Or a proper disease... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,712 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, lurcherman 887 said: So is depression for no hopers fannys world on there shoulder types. Or a proper disease... do you care? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,580 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 I gave up years ago trying to explain it to people ,not only do you suffer on your own ,but you get labelled miserable ,morose and anti social to boot ,it's a b*****d to live with ,and you have got to try hard not to affect those around you . 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darbo 4,776 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Depression is a serious issue and in my opinion its not a case of man up get on with it etc. My brother in laws step daughter has had problems for the last 12 months on medication counciling etc. On the surface a nice young girl had the material things her own place a nice car a well paid job. Age 26 she hung herself 6 weeks ago. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevj 434 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 56 minutes ago, lurcherman 887 said: So is depression for no hopers fannys world on there shoulder types. Or a proper disease... Always been confident,optimistic,happy man until my injury happened.It had a big impact on my quality of life and I tried to just pull myself together and get on with it but couldn’t do it without help.So wouldn’t say it is just the type of person you described who suffers with it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cheesemastergeneral 6 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 There is a good program that’s just recently been on called “road to redemption” about Tyson fury’s mental health struggles. Now there’s a man that had it all, a millionaire, kids, world championship belts everything a man could desire yet he still wished he was dead. If it can happen to him it could happen to any one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,907 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cheesemastergeneral said: There is a good program that’s just recently been on called “road to redemption” about Tyson fury’s mental health struggles. Now there’s a man that had it all, a millionaire, kids, world championship belts everything a man could desire yet he still wished he was dead. If it can happen to him it could happen to any one. Watched it last night Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 I think a lot of celebrities use such illnesses as a get of jail card to win back public favour. Tyson Fury went off the rails partying and got caught sniffing coke and used depression as an excuse, same as Mel B, cock hungry coke whore using Domestic Violence. They are just 2 recent examples. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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