Greyman 28,453 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, lurcherman 887 said: So is depression for no hopers fannys world on there shoulder types. Or a proper disease... I believe it is an illness afforded to us by our modern lives, I won't cast judgements on anyone or give my personal feelings or experiences, but the Internet and pressures of our modern lives has created this phenomena, if an African was to depressed to leave home or get out of bed or suffer panic attacks he would simply die of starvation, so it does not occur, like self harming amongst teenagers does,nt happen in country,s were people actually struggle each day to just stay alive and find the basics like food water and warmth, 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,563 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Blackmag said: My son is 11 he's autistic and suffers severe anxiety to the fact he doesn't want to leave the house and if he does go even the shops he's looking down isles to see if anyone there but we are trying to get him out little trips but he has panic attacks melt downs nearly being sick but he wants to try but it's just his mindset I know lads with depression not get out of bed for days have zero energy don't even want to wash and just talking to them you relise just how dark that cloud is and how hard it is for them just to do things we take for granted I can empathize with this,my sister in the north east has two children,both on the autistic spectrum,the boy is hyper and has frequent melt-downs in public,the girl is 17 and I think she has depression,self harmed,doesn't leave her room often,and once didn't comb her hair for several days,has no concept of personal appearance,no energy,very sad to see a child like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Empathy,...that is the key word to understanding the plight of others,...and if you do not have it within ya to comprehend the vagaries of depression (and it comes in many diverse forms)..well, its no problem,..most of us survive,..so just jog on,.. and live your own life. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,598 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 currently caring for my dear lady at the moment. breast cancer, I used to be one happy chappy, but now, yes im depressed. but I put on a brave face for the sake of her, I could go on and on, but I dunna want to come across as a boring owd fart, but I will say this, she will want fer nowt as long as Im alive 13 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Been there with my own dear wife,...goodonya old fellah... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepitcovert 842 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 I have two mates that have suffered with it most of their adult lives, both were total extroverts, the type of person you would not put down to suffering from it. Having seen others that have it i now realise that you certainly cant judge a book by its cover , A lot of extroverts seem to suffer with so is their persona just a front hiding their inner selves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,598 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Phil Lloyd said: Been there with my own dear wife,...goodonya old fellah... this will be my second wife im about to lose Phil, what gets me is this, neighbours, friends, seem to avoiding me just when I need em right now, but I suppose they don't no what to say, sorry for your loss matey, I truly am atb keith Edited November 26, 2018 by iworkwhippets correction 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Still got her Keith, I was lucky, but it was touch and go at the time...It fecked me up big time, I've never really been the same since... It's illogical I know, but previous to this, I had been a callous fecker, killing game, like there was no tomorrow, but now, I'm not the same man... You are right about friends, kinda avoiding ya,... I think it's an inbuilt safety mechanism that most folks have, and as you say, they just don't know, what to say. Facts are,..what can anyone say... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,539 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 sorry to hear this lads I lost my mam to cancer she was only 40,she suffered for 3 years before she died that was 45 years ago they did not know as much about it or have the treatments they do these days ,horrible thing it is 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,787 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Mr Wilkes said: I was shown this vid which kind of made me realise what was happening ... the kind of dog we can all do without.. Thanks for sharing that mate Edited November 26, 2018 by shaaark 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jiggy 3,209 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Phil Lloyd said: Still got her Keith, I was lucky, but it was touch and go at the time...It fecked me up big time, I've never really been the same since... It's illogical I know, but previous to this, I had been a callous fecker, killing game, like there was no tomorrow, but now, I'm not the same man... You are right about friends, kinda avoiding ya,... I think it's an inbuilt safety mechanism that most folks have, and as you say, they just don't know, what to say. Facts are,..what can anyone say... I think most people when they get on in age start having a mortality check and don't see killing game as the point scoring exercise it was when younger. Maybe it's just getting bored of it or else recognising that the grim reaper isn't that far away from paying them a visit. My own father stopped shooting pheasants in his 40,s because he couldn't justify it. I was shocked at the time he stopped after been at it since he was a kid and said I'd do it until i die but now at only 38 I couldn't be bothered trying for numbers. I'm happy enough to tip away at a few foxes and play cat and mouse with them. When a close family member gets ill it can upset the whole family as a unit and can easily cause stress, anxiety , depression and tension between the rest of the family on what is best for the person that is sick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cheesemastergeneral 6 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, maxhardcore said: Honestly ' I think modern living and the pressures and expectations that go with it have a lot to answer for. I used to work for Mind and they have their way of doing things. Maybe it was me but some of those sessions I seen wernt productive at all. They were sort of highlighting the fact they were depressed. 2 of the lads who I was mentoring' one was def in his own way strange ' granted but was also partially playing the system by me taking him for tea/ coffee food all on expense and he was on every benefit going. He was lazy and overweight. In time I talked him into walks instead of just sitting in coffee shops in town. His mood lifted but he still did what he had to do to get what he wanted. The other lad was defiantly genuine and real low ' no confidence at all whatsoever. After a month of walks instead of sensory room at the facility I had him doing 3 x 45 gym sessions per week with me. He loved it after a month of having to drag him there. Im no professional but it's a downward spiral if you let it get hold of you. And Exercise in every form helps. Walking swimming Cardio weights Running Bikeing Whatever' Exercise is def a good starting point. I’d agree with that, keeping busy and being active and stimulating your self rather than just mopeing around on your own which would be just as dangerous as alcohol and drugs in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,708 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 im not so sure it is a good thing ,to tell the world all your issues Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Astanley said: I gave up years ago trying to explain it to people ,not only do you suffer on your own ,but you get labelled miserable ,morose and anti social to boot ,it's a b*****d to live with ,and you have got to try hard not to affect those around you . This is how well sufferers hide depression, looking at your quips and comments on here it would be easy to believe you as a happy go lucky guy without a care. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, riohog said: im not so sure it is a good thing ,to tell the world all your issues I think most psychiatrists would agree with you, it's got to be better to keep it all bottled up and festering. ( Sarcasm for the hard of thinking). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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