Coursing Bred

[Black neck 15,947]

43 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Genuine question but why should they have to rear it gently, bring it on slower, given longer to mature? When they can just get a lurcher that suits them, don’t need reating gently, or fetched on slower or treated with kid gloves, likes been said mate they ain’t for everybody an from where I’m sat,you saluki lovers saying the crabbers are wrong then you are surely crabbing all other types,have you tried all other types Cos I have tried a coursing dog an couple a half x coursing dogs an they just ain’t for me, I ain’t as ignorant to suggest they shit or there is no good uns, jist very few that would keep me personally happy 

 

I keep dogs to enjoy, relax, an spend some quality time outdoors an if a coursing dog hinders that in any way then it ain’t for me, they are dogs mate an like fcuk Am I gonna change or mould meself around a puppy when there are countless other types out there that will mould to me, an let’s be honest how many folk actually need a mutt that can run for 4 mins

I agree wi that I certainly couldn't do 1 justice be lucky if the ran for 4 minutes in a week the runs mine get are more like 4 seconds

Like the dogs tho reckon one of them to a whippet lurcher would be tasty 

[Caravan Monster 323]

I've had 2 saluki lurchers with a bit of collie lurcher blood in them. The old one took more to the collie side and was steady, easy to live with, had a bit of a crunchy mouth and you wouldn't loose sight of her for too long in the field. The current one is more to the saluki side and is still puppy-ish at over 3 years old, in a different league for speed and endurance and has a soft mouth. She is a bit much for the land around here with people and roads everywhere, but somewhere with wide open spaces she would be in her element. She is hard work, but I wouldn't change her.

[two crows 3,342]

4 hours ago, Allan P said:

Cheers ,thought so but don’t like to assume. 

what has to be remembered is that the original dogs going way back were lurchers with saluki added, they were not started with f1 saluki greys.

[Gilbey 1,434]

2 hours ago, maxhardcore said:

Davo ' Splodge won the Forley Legends' got beat a week or two later in the Forley Cup Final' he also won a 16 dog invitation stake the same season.

Loads of different stories of how Fettle was bred.

The Story I got was her Sire was a dog called Dan who was litter bro to Kifa.

Dan was by Sam' who was a litter bro to Nipper and Foxy.

Sam was by Micky Drews Joe and out of Nuttalls Seagull.

Joe was Merlin x Lilly.

Seagull was Fred x Eve 

 

Dan's Dam was Harrigans Lucy what won the Fieldfare Challange.

She was by Blackarse a saluki greyhound and out of Jade a feathered saluki greyhound.

Think I was told Blackarse had something to do with Dancer ?

 

By all accounts Fettle Dam was 

Betsy.

who was by Dels Luke and out of a sister to Seagull.

Luke was Duke x Dels Molly.

Duke was the Street Accident x Dels Anna 

Molly was out of Ruff x Dels Queenie ?

Seagulls sister was Mucullochs Fred x Eve.

Fred was Saluki greyhound x Flys sister .

Eve was Prince a pure Saluki x Gypsy.

 

There you go ' weather that's somewhere near the truth who knows ?????

my understanding of Fettle's breeding??

sire GA's Dan= Sam x H's Lucy

dam (name?)= Nipper x Betsy(Biff x Daisy)

Biff= Merlin x ?

Daisy= Rebel x Eve

Betsy's breeding came from the man that bred her

[billhardy 2,342]

2 hours ago, W. Katchum said:

Genuine question but why should they have to rear it gently, bring it on slower, given longer to mature? When they can just get a lurcher that suits them, don’t need reating gently, or fetched on slower or treated with kid gloves, likes been said mate they ain’t for everybody an from where I’m sat,you saluki lovers saying the crabbers are wrong then you are surely crabbing all other types,have you tried all other types Cos I have tried a coursing dog an couple a half x coursing dogs an they just ain’t for me, I ain’t as ignorant to suggest they shit or there is no good uns, jist very few that would keep me personally happy 

 

I keep dogs to enjoy, relax, an spend some quality time outdoors an if a coursing dog hinders that in any way then it ain’t for me, they are dogs mate an like fcuk Am I gonna change or mould meself around a puppy when there are countless other types out there that will mould to me, an let’s be honest how many folk actually need a mutt that can run for 4 mins

Katch one a those coursing mallinois may have suited thee they like everything plus they can take abuse very forgiving no traits that Weser in most sal and base bred types these are just the opposite lol  and they are what I call a mans dog teach what Eva thy please  sustain continious daily work nightly kill Charlie preban like rats single recovery stamina durability everything bar maybey top speed of a good coursing hound. But who needs that has a general lurcher not many.with out doubt the coursing blood had a massive influence in these .atb bill

[Elchapo 3,166]

I herd felled was out of dasha 

dasha was out of 

Dancer x prancer 

prancer was out of 

Vixen x comet 

comet was out of 

cupid x donner 

donner was out of  

blitzen x Rudolph 

[billhardy 2,342]

We have coursing stock round us with all those known coursing breds and like everything going back ta base da a generation in general his not a big detriment ta the generation in hindsight it's a big plus in future generations works both ends going back to pure seals has with going back ta base blood.atb bill

[Black neck 15,947]

1 minute ago, W. Katchum said:

I don’t hold the hare as some mythical creature mate, If I really wanted a freezer full a them then I’d lamp the fcukers or let dog take em out there seat. Or even net em. So that by law of odds says I don’t even need half coursing dog, Iv tried em an for what they bring to the table out in field they lose elsewhere, we had dogs capable of catching everything on these islands even before we got the top a range kit to use with em, okay that coursing dogs have blew the hare coursing world apart but I ain’t a hare courser

They are mythical creatures mate and they turn into witches I seen it happened 

[Black neck 15,947]

1 minute ago, W. Katchum said:

If I being totally honest I’d rather have a good ole whizz banger with a minute in tank than a coursing dog anyways, due to the style a running I like to watch an the land I’d rather run on

Me too not that I got a choice 

[Gilbey 1,434]

4 minutes ago, billhardy said:

We have coursing stock round us with all those known coursing breds and like everything going back ta base da a generation in general his not a big detriment ta the generation in hindsight it's a big plus in future generations works both ends going back to pure seals has with going back ta base blood.atb bill

lol class posts

[billhardy 2,342]

1 minute ago, W. Katchum said:

I don’t hold the hare as some mythical creature mate, If I really wanted a freezer full a them then I’d lamp the fcukers or let dog take em out there seat. Or even net em. So that by law of odds says I don’t even need half coursing dog, Iv tried em an for what they bring to the table out in field they lose elsewhere, we had dogs capable of catching everything on these islands even before we got the top a range kit to use with em, okay that coursing dogs have blew the hare coursing world apart but I ain’t a hare courser

Yes but katch lots of the big bag coney catchers have a drop of of coursing blood ,it's oh so true many many moons ago I was of the context has just British bred from British bred canines were everything we needed sadly not the case if one wants something with that little bit extra ,atb bill

[billhardy 2,342]

That fettle had some a the same stuff off beanie etc we had siblings from the same stiff another beanie adzactly.y spit the same Norfolk blood beddie blood all in the mix I have no pics my old best side kick been gone a good while now rip Bing .but hey they was the base da them Salukis covered atbbill

[Gilbey 1,434]

1 hour ago, billhardy said:

That fettle had some a the same stuff off beanie etc we had siblings from the same stiff another beanie adzactly.y spit the same Norfolk blood beddie blood all in the mix I have no pics my old best side kick been gone a good while now rip Bing .but hey they was the base da them Salukis covered atbbill

Beanie was a 1st x saluki greyhound, nothing to do with fettle

Edited November 22, 2018 by Gilbey

[billhardy 2,342]

15 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

An a lot ain’t, like I said they are great dogs for the folk that need/like/want them but there are also other types out there just as capable for the folks that don’t need/lile/want

What yas running now katch  atb bill

[billhardy 2,342]

Just now, W. Katchum said:

Just me ole wheatenx lurcher but she old an cancer is deffo back so just giving her what she wants to keep her ticking over, I get a pup in spring time I imagine. I do like a spring litter

Best  time but will it be same agen or some ate different well bred worker whippet grey suit you wiz about fa a minute an half .atb bill