mC HULL 12,157 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 hours ago, dogmandont said: Take it you don't have much experience of running foxes? Enough experience to no any half descentLurchers make them look slow lol I’ve never needed to throw a dog out a motor just so it can put a bend in lol 1 Quote Link to post
dogmandont 9,775 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: Enough experience to no any half descentLurchers make them look slow lol I’ve never needed to throw a dog out a motor just so it can put a bend in lol And on the right ground a decent fox will make half decent lurchers look stupid. Take yourself out with a Half Decent lurcher in the day time on rough ground and see how many they make look slow. 3 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,157 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, dogmandont said: And on the right ground a decent fox will make half decent lurchers look stupid. Take yourself out with a Half Decent lurcher in the day time on rough ground and see how many they make look slow. I’ll take your word for it Lol if a fox out in open is making a dog look stupid it definately not half descent Quote Link to post
dogmandont 9,775 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, mC HULL said: I’ll take your word for it Lol if a fox out in open is making a dog look stupid it definately not half descent Who mentioned out in the open? In your vast experience is that where you get most foxes? Out In The Open. Lol. Anyway I'll bow out and leave you to it. Lol. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,157 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) I hunt arable land so yes I run them in the open lol during the day the normally come up out of dykes and make a run across aN open field and the very rarely get out a field even with a good head start you want to try practicing what you preach and get out in the day and run some fox hard though driving fields throwing dogs out motor running 3 handed during the day lol Edited July 27, 2020 by mC HULL Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,086 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 My old pit/bullmastiff could catch foxes but only in a short sprint or they would pull away.I've been told straight cross whippet/russells struggle to catch decent size foxes but have no experience with the speed of a first cross bull/whippet.I think I'd prefer a 3/4 whippet or run a half cross with a pure. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,157 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Different land there mate in U.K. you would struggle with a first cross whippet Russell 1 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,086 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Different land there mate in U.K. you would struggle with a first cross whippet Russell I like the idea of working terrier/whippet compared to pit blood,the pits and crosses I've owned all had a hatred of foxes and wish to destroy them but I wouldn't call them hunting dogs.I don't think they add any hunt to a running dog,just muscle and hatred for canine type prey and more leg than other terriers but if they do the job I can see why they are popular and useful. 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,157 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 You hunt more bush aussie whip or do you still run arable fields crop fields Quote Link to post
green lurchers 16,556 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 17 hours ago, mC HULL said: I’ll take your word for it Lol if a fox out in open is making a dog look stupid it definately not half descent What the fox or the dog ? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,157 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, green lurchers said: What the fox or the dog ? Lol the dog what I said was how fast is a fox ? Compared to a good dog they are slow when compared to a deer or hare they slippery but not fast Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,151 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Lol the dog what I said was how fast is a fox ? Compared to a good dog they are slow when compared to a deer or hare they slippery but not fast Still fast enough to outrun bull/whippets though when up and going.Come to think of it so are most rabbits Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,157 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, downsouth said: Still fast enough to outrun bull/whippets though when up and going.Come to think of it so are most rabbits Same can be said about bull x grey how many half cross you seen really that were good 2 Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,151 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Same can be said about bull x grey how many half cross you seen really that were good A few.Admitedly Ive seen a lot of cloddy shit too but Ive never seen a single bull/whippet with decent pace.I bred a litter myself years ago and even a couple that topped up at 22" were nowhere near as fast as either of my bull greyhound bitches that were a shade under and a shade ove 23" that were both very good fox bitches and could do double figures on rabbits on flat arable for fun. 4 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,157 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Even without any bull seen pure greys love fox make quick work of them Whippets I seen been hopeless on em Quote Link to post
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