Greyman 28,431 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, JohnGalway said: The EU is the most successful peace organisation there is, funny take you have leaving it then comparing it with war dead. It was formed to prevent Germany and France going to war. No one stopping you making your own decisions, no one stopped the referendum, no one is stopping the UK leaving at the end of March. Your thinking is bizarre. And no one stopping you f***ing off across the channel and living with all the other cowardly white flag waving wankers, and if you have room in your motor take sarge with you, it's not a successful peace organisation it,s an unelected, undemocratic dictatorship, that has caused untold poverty and misery to anyone that won't dance to its tune, John Claude wanker is a raving alcoholic german puppet and not a world leader, the sooner this house of cards collapses the better for all 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 The EU is the biggest market in the world and we have free trade with it at present and via the EU also have free trade deals with 36 non EU countries, walking away from that for some imagined land of old remembered glories is stupid. The world has moved on, little islands no longer rule but get bullied by the big players, the EU is a big player that can stand up to Russia, America and China. Outside we will just be an unregulated sweat shop with no protections for the working man. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Greyman said: it,s an unelected, undemocratic dictatorship, Wrong, simple version.. In the UK election, political parties pick a person they want to lead them and become Prime Minister. In the EU election, political parties pick a person they want to lead them and become Commission President. In the UK election, the UK citizens votes for their local MP. In the EU election, the EU citizens votes for their local MEP. The UK party with the most seats in the UK parliament gets the first chance to have their leader became Prime Minister and pick Cabinet Ministers. The EU party with the most seats in the EU parliament gets the first chance to have their leader become Commission President and pick Commissioners. longer version... http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2016/06/21/is-the-eu-really-run-by-unelected-bureaucrats/ Edited November 16, 2018 by sandymere 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, Greyman said: And no one stopping you f***ing off across the channel and living with all the other cowardly white flag waving wankers, and if you have room in your motor take sarge with you, it's not a successful peace organisation it,s an unelected, undemocratic dictatorship, that has caused untold poverty and misery to anyone that won't dance to its tune, John Claude wanker is a raving alcoholic german puppet and not a world leader, the sooner this house of cards collapses the better for all He seems to be successfully living rent free in your head 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 People trust the current UK government?? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/un-report-uk-poverty-austerity-government-cuts-special-rapporteur-benefits-callous-a8636901.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martyn2233 2,568 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, sandymere said: People trust the current UK government?? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/un-report-uk-poverty-austerity-government-cuts-special-rapporteur-benefits-callous-a8636901.html And that’s while where in the EU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: then tell Junker and Co what we demand as a fair divorce . You've already tried that, Barnier didn't didnt go for it, then you tried to circumvent Barnier and were told by individual member states to..... wait for it..... go talk to Barnier. Why do I get the impression you've not been following brexit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, JohnGalway said: Examples please. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indy100.com/article/brexit-deal-latest-david-davis-eu-negotiations-bbc-radio-4-today-programme-8636611%3famp there are lots of example should you care to look Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Seems 48 letters of no confidence have been sent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginger beard 4,652 Posted November 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 I wanted to know what deal has been offered..? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,431 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, ginger beard said: I wanted to know what deal has been offered..? Basically we get to give them £40billion pound they keep control until roughly 2030 and we have no further say in how things are run, it's a blinder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, JohnGalway said: The EU is the most successful peace organisation there is, funny take you have leaving it then comparing it with war dead. It was formed to prevent Germany and France going to war. No one stopping you making your own decisions, no one stopped the referendum, no one is stopping the UK leaving at the end of March. Your thinking is bizarre. What's your opinion about the noises coming from the French and German leaderships regarding the formation of an EU army John?? One more step down the road towards a United States of Europe.. They'd have gone down that route years ago if not for the UK's opposition to it because it would have undermined NATO and balance of power that has kept us all in a relative peace for so long.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,431 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Surprising what short memory,s some people have 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, tilimangro said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indy100.com/article/brexit-deal-latest-david-davis-eu-negotiations-bbc-radio-4-today-programme-8636611%3famp there are lots of example should you care to look Uhm, did you read what you posted at all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, JohnGalway said: Uhm, did you read what you posted at all? Yes Did you read what I wrote ive absolutely no Interest into getting into it with you as you’ve clearly got no interest in having your opinion challenged Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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