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Funny no one cares to mention our booming export economy as the pound is down exports are flying but it’s just another uncomfortable truth that’s best not mentioned while we try and blame every thing from the end of the internal combustion engine  to local sheep worrying incidents on brexit, got to say sandy posting links to propaganda sites is making you look a bigger prick by the page, still think a f**k right off emoji would be very useful ??

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Correct. Of those nine countries some receive more back in trade within the EU than they  put in.  When they hand the dosh over to Brussels and Brussels then divvies it out to the poorer EU count

If you want to see hatred look at the political left. From antifa to momentum to unite against hate.  We arnt full of hate we are just pissed off.  Being against giving power to the eu isn't

What the latest news has demonstrated is that May's policy of appeasement to the EU was similar to Chamberlain's appeasement towards Hitler in the 1930's. By standing up to the EU and removing any hop

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On 18/02/2019 at 14:50, sandymere said:

Honda were in the UK because it gave them access to the eu car market without the prohibitively difficult labour laws of european countries like France. They are now leaving the UK because Japan has signed a free trade agreement with the european union, which allows them to sell cars produced in Japan directly to the eu without the high import tariffs  which would make them too expensive for the euro market. It has nothing to do with brexit, other than in the sense of reminding us that it is a good idea because the eu does not act in our interests, which it has demonstrated with honda by wiping out a large number of British jobs to open up the Japanese markets to French and German manufacturers.

Brexit will be painful short and probably medium term because our government, civil service and majority of corporate interests do not want it and have intentionally failed to do sufficient planning in the nearly three years since the referendum because they were focussed on finding ways to overturn it.

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The uncertainty over which kind of Brexit is going to happen is whats causing the panic at the minute more than Brexit itself. Buinesses can't prepare a route until they know which way its going to go, thats why so many are moving their assets elsewhere for insurance. Government wants a f**king foot in the arse but no one in it has got a strong enough boot to do it with.. 

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Britain - a global trader after Brexit? A vexing question.

How do leavers explain the fact that British businesses have not been doing far more exporting or importing of goods and services with distant, non-EU, countries over the past 46 years? The EU's not been stopping them, has it? Other countries, like Germany, Italy etc have been doing more than we have.

Furthermore, there've been trade deals agreed between the EU and those countries during that period, with more in the pipeline. And, isn't the DfIT merely attempting to mirror those deals, not extend them?

So, what will change after Brexit? I'm rather puzzled about this.

What will make British and those of the relevant non-EU businesses increase or commence such trading, to make up for any British EU trade losses?

Furthermore, won't British businesses be hampered by the fact that imported components and raw materials from the EU and other countries, which the EU has trade deals with, will, after Brexit, have the additional burden of tariffs and non-tariff red tape and costs?

So, can we have some answers? Thanks.

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3 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Britain - a global trader after Brexit? A vexing question.

How do leavers explain the fact that British businesses have not been doing far more exporting or importing of goods and services with distant, non-EU, countries over the past 46 years? The EU's not been stopping them, has it? Other countries, like Germany, Italy etc have been doing more than we have.

Furthermore, there've been trade deals agreed between the EU and those countries during that period, with more in the pipeline. And, isn't the DfIT merely attempting to mirror those deals, not extend them?

So, what will change after Brexit? I'm rather puzzled about this.

What will make British and those of the relevant non-EU businesses increase or commence such trading, to make up for any British EU trade losses?

Furthermore, won't British businesses be hampered by the fact that imported components and raw materials from the EU and other countries, which the EU has trade deals with, will, after Brexit, have the additional burden of tariffs and non-tariff red tape and costs?

So, can we have some answers? Thanks.

The only answer is we voted leave that’s the top and bottom of it ??

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8 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Britain - a global trader after Brexit? A vexing question.

How do leavers explain the fact that British businesses have not been doing far more exporting or importing of goods and services with distant, non-EU, countries over the past 46 years? The EU's not been stopping them, has it? Other countries, like Germany, Italy etc have been doing more than we have.

Furthermore, there've been trade deals agreed between the EU and those countries during that period, with more in the pipeline. And, isn't the DfIT merely attempting to mirror those deals, not extend them?

So, what will change after Brexit? I'm rather puzzled about this.

What will make British and those of the relevant non-EU businesses increase or commence such trading, to make up for any British EU trade losses?

Furthermore, won't British businesses be hampered by the fact that imported components and raw materials from the EU and other countries, which the EU has trade deals with, will, after Brexit, have the additional burden of tariffs and non-tariff red tape and costs?

So, can we have some answers? Thanks.

None of us

either side remain or leave have answers

we all have conjecture

i personally think in the long run the eu was a failing state and nothing more than an elaborate ponsy scheme 

if you have evidence to the contrary I’d be willing to look at it

but please don’t assume that the reasons you voted remain are the same as why people voted leave 

equally don’t assume people did zero research and were swayed by campaigns 

looking for answers is futile

you Won’t be satisfied

 

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It's the whinging remoaners , 80% of MP's and the people the will not accept democracy like sneaky Blair creeping off to the EU saying to the them "dig your heels in ",the still go on about remaining that have Fecked any chance of a good deal. Constantly giving the EU hope we will stay in. You can't play Poker when every fecker showing your hand to the other players.

We have only had two referendums in this country one join the Common Market which we accepted the vote for and one to leave the EU which all the removers will not accept they lost. Why on earth would we trust an another vote if you can not carry the last one out. Its bloody Democracy for christ sake.

Cheers Arry

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Meanwhile in Spain it seems the push back against socialist practice is on  the up . Now who’s to blame for all this ? Trump Farage ? Errrm eu  ? Nah admitting they fkd up isn’t part of the liberal way , denial smokescreen and blame everyone else that’s the eu and liberal way with the help of the bias media they want to tell us wats best unfortunately we are telling you wats best drunker macron tusk [ fkn maggot ]  ???

 

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1 hour ago, green lurchers said:

Meanwhile in Spain it seems the push back against socialist practice is on  the up . Now who’s to blame for all this ? Trump Farage ? Errrm eu  ? Nah admitting they fkd up isn’t part of the liberal way , denial smokescreen and blame everyone else that’s the eu and liberal way with the help of the bias media they want to tell us wats best unfortunately we are telling you wats best drunker macron tusk [ fkn maggot ]  ???

 

Erm I live here mate and while large areas of Spain are going a lot more nationalist (being really upped in the media more than it actually is). Catalunya is going the communist route ;)

I have a video here from the other day and not sure where to post it on here but it'll open the eyes.

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Erm I live here mate and while large areas of Spain are going a lot more nationalist (being really upped in the media more than it actually is). Catalunya is going the communist route ;)

I have a video here from the other day and not sure where to post it on here but it'll open the eyes.

Mush I got a place in Spain  andulicia mrs our ther at tho mo   They fkd off with the socialist wet wipes , barca bit different I know but all this eu social shit and the welcome invasion they hav had enough ? vox are big players down ther , plenty will unfold after matey called an election time will tell 

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