NEWKID 27,132 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Nicepix said: The only way now is to leave with no deal to undo what May has thrown away. Once the EU realise that they will lose trade, fishing grounds, and have lorries full of perishable goods standing on the docks waiting for customs clearance they will soon push to continue what they have now. Emporer Macron wants to exclude the UK from some EU projects. Fine. And when EDF come round to negotiating their power generating contracts with the UK government they can be told to take a running jump. There are others who will take up the contracts and they don't have to be inside the EU. Same with fishing grounds. The French fishermen in Normandy need access to UK waters. They can be held to ransom too. The UK has been holding the best cards all along. The problem was that May hadn't a clue how to play as dirty as the EU have. Good post mate ..on the button that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,618 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 (edited) Run along Rory Stewart your as useful as a chocolate teapot lol we need a pm to dictate no roll over Edited May 25, 2019 by green lurchers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky 3,325 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Once we leave the common Market FISH will be a lot Cheaper ……….WON'T IT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 37 minutes ago, micky said: Once we leave the common Market FISH will be a lot Cheaper ……….WON'T IT It is a complicated subject. Under EU laws all fishing grounds are allocated to members states on a quota basis. Spain has virtually no good fishing grounds of its own but has the biggest fishing fleet in the EU. French boats from Normandy and Brittany fish exclusively in British waters and would go out of business if deprived on those grounds. The Spanish market for fish dwarfs the UK market and their trawlers and factory ships need to access UK Atlantic grounds to fulfil their home markets for fish. Some of the UK fishing grounds can also be accessed by German, Dutch and Danish trawlers. The British and Irish waters are the best in Europe and quotas and licences are highly sought after and British skippers cannot compete with the French and Spanish as their markets are greater and more profitable. Spain and France also import thousands of tonnes of fish and shellfish each year from the UK and Ireland. If you go to Spain you will see loads of fish boxes outside restaurants and markets marked up with Scottish or Irish ports or companies. The way it works is that each day hundreds of refrigerated lorries set off from France and Spain loaded with fresh fruit and veg' headed for the UK. Once unloaded the same wagons pick up a load of fish or shellfish from British ports and take them back to France and Spain. Those lorries cannot afford to be held up in either direction or the cargo will be spoiled. There are stores in French newspapers about local skippers crapping themselves about going out of business if the British stop them fishing. Also in Spain similar stories about farmers losing a massive market if they cannot get their perishable cargoes through customs without delay. Another aspect is that at the moment the EU protects Spanish and French farmers by putting subsidies on fruit and veg' imported from North Africa, Turkey, Israel and beyond. That makes the EU produced products cheaper, but if the UK leave without a deal there is nothing stopping them buying their fruit and veg' direct from outside the EU which would be cheaper for the UK consumers and a catastrophe for French and Spanish farmers. And of course if the lorries aren't going north with the fruit and veg' they won't be able to return full of UK caught sea food so the restaurants will suffer too. If the UK acted as belligerently as the EU has done and close all UK fishing grounds to EU boats, even as a temporary measure to make a point, the local politicians in France, Spain and Ireland would be put under pressure by their businessmen to sort out the problem PDQ. 7 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liP 700 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 If you got 22 mins spare then this could be good news! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Interestingly in France the far right party are at the moment leading the European elections with Macron's party in second place 2% and 2 seats behind them and the next party are some way behind them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meece 1,957 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 The first results are starting to come in and KING NIGE is steamrolling the opposition at the mo. Go on NIGE. Finish the job and then make life a misery over there for the criminals. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Can the Brexit party run in a general election an could nice become pm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Yes and Yes Francie, looking at the early results so far the Brexit party are smashing it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,264 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Lib-Dem spokesman,just said Nigel did "ok" but the british people want the end of the Brexit process and a final say on leaving Europe,delusional as f**k 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 It looks like the Welsh lads are sticking by us again ........ They're properly f***ing off Labour and the Conservatives 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Corbyn keeps banging on about a general election, he wants to be careful the scruffy fecker might just get one, and at this moment in time it's the last thing the Labour party want or the Tories. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 East of England, Labour never got a seat, even the green party managed one ...................Brexit 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,819 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Emily Thornberry MP ( labour ) just made a comment on live TV, " we the labour party are a democratic party who listens to the voters" so what about the election we have just had to leave the EU you big fat slapper where is your democracy towards the majority who voted to leave. Big fat patronising slapper rant over 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted May 26, 2019 Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 Agreed Del, that Thornberry is a patronising twat. I see the folk in the Midlands did well 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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