mushroom 13,174 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, mackay said: I've just spent a week in main land Spain and a week in Tenerife, if you removed the Brits from the amount of people that were there they'd be on their bloody knees. If it's the tourist areas you were in (Alicante, the sols etc), then that's the norm. It will kill them locally, if these people move or stop coming. It's the untold tens of thousands of Brits that work in Madrid, Barcelona, zaragoza, bilbao, Malaga etc that this country cannot afford to lose. These people bring billions to the economy here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,720 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, mackay said: I've just spent a week in main land Spain and a week in Tenerife, if you removed the Brits from the amount of people that were there they'd be on their bloody knees. Too true Spain Portugal built in Brit money Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,846 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 55 minutes ago, foxdropper said: Many more jobs back then mate . It’s easy to say they will be ok but many of them know nothing else . I think a lot of people are burying their heads in the sand if they think brexit isn’t going to have a negative impact in the short term and nobody knows how it will go long term. And as usual the people that will really suffer will be the working class. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,720 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, dogmandont said: I think a lot of people are burying their heads in the sand if they think brexit isn’t going to have a negative impact in the short term and nobody knows how it will go long term. And as usual the people that will really suffer will be the working class. Yep that’s me but fk them eu slags and whatever the consequence 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,846 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, green lurchers said: Yep that’s me but fk them eu slags and whatever the consequence And that’s fair enough. I’m not anti brexit far from it but it’s definitely worrying times for a lot of people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,720 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, dogmandont said: And that’s fair enough. I’m not anti brexit far from it but it’s definitely worrying times for a lot of people. It’s far more worrying to stay attached to the corrupt unelected leeches 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,846 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, green lurchers said: It’s far more worrying to stay attached to the corrupt unelected leeches Try telling that to folks with young families that just might lose their jobs and their homes and as wilf said a long time ago it will be brexit it name only and there will be very little change to the status quo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 24/02/2019 at 08:58, sandymere said: Britain - a global trader after Brexit? A vexing question. How do leavers explain the fact that British businesses have not been doing far more exporting or importing of goods and services with distant, non-EU, countries over the past 46 years? The EU's not been stopping them, has it? Other countries, like Germany, Italy etc have been doing more than we have. Furthermore, there've been trade deals agreed between the EU and those countries during that period, with more in the pipeline. And, isn't the DfIT merely attempting to mirror those deals, not extend them? So, what will change after Brexit? I'm rather puzzled about this. What will make British and those of the relevant non-EU businesses increase or commence such trading, to make up for any British EU trade losses? Furthermore, won't British businesses be hampered by the fact that imported components and raw materials from the EU and other countries, which the EU has trade deals with, will, after Brexit, have the additional burden of tariffs and non-tariff red tape and costs? So, can we have some answers? Thanks. Why if we are going over a cliff edge after brexit did siemens anounce 200m investment in goole thats after the vote to leave imports exports we import more than we export so if they hit us with tarriffs were laughing we do the same its not in their interest to make things we import cost more if they had markets to sell what we were taking they would be selling to them already Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, dogmandont said: I think a lot of people are burying their heads in the sand if they think brexit isn’t going to have a negative impact in the short term and nobody knows how it will go long term. And as usual the people that will really suffer will be the working class. I don’t think anybody doesn’t think that short term everyone who voted out knew short term it would be hard it was done with the long term in mind and its now getting to the point where we are being ignored those who will suffer the most are for the most those who voted out it couldn’t get much worse for a lot of folks meanwhile those at the top drink champagne and ignore the plight of the people 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 I don't think there is any doubt there will be a level of short term pain, but it will lead to a long term period of substantial gain! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,846 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, tilimangro said: I don’t think anybody doesn’t think that short term everyone who voted out knew short term it would be hard it was done with the long term in mind and its now getting to the point where we are being ignored those who will suffer the most are for the most those who voted out it couldn’t get much worse for a lot of folks meanwhile those at the top drink champagne and ignore the plight of the people Be really honest tilimangro but do you think that brexit is going to make a button of difference to the man on the street that voted for it? Because I think it won’t put 1 penny extra in the working mans pocket but it may well take a few out. And as far as immigration goes I genuinely feel the government don’t give a toss about it and they’ll find a way for it to continue. I’m not here to try and shout down anyone’s views because for the most part I totally agree. But I feel that the people who will be worse off and made the biggest sacrifice will have done it in vain because very little will change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tilimangro 1,013 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, dogmandont said: Be really honest tilimangro but do you think that brexit is going to make a button of difference to the man on the street that voted for it? Because I think it won’t put 1 penny extra in the working mans pocket but it may well take a few out. And as far as immigration goes I genuinely feel the government don’t give a toss about it and they’ll find a way for it to continue. I’m not here to try and shout down anyone’s views because for the most part I totally agree. But I feel that the people who will be worse off and made the biggest sacrifice will have done it in vain because very little will change. Personally yes I do think it will make a difference in the long run in a few years people should be better off Mans I think the majority of people who voted leave felt the same Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,846 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, tilimangro said: Personally yes I do think it will make a difference in the long run in a few years people should be better off Mans I think the majority of people who voted leave felt the same When this whole process started I felt the same but now I’m not so sure I guess I’ve just become disillusioned with the whole thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 8 hours ago, dogmandont said: Be really honest tilimangro but do you think that brexit is going to make a button of difference to the man on the street that voted for it? Because I think it won’t put 1 penny extra in the working mans pocket but it may well take a few out. And as far as immigration goes I genuinely feel the government don’t give a toss about it and they’ll find a way for it to continue. I’m not here to try and shout down anyone’s views because for the most part I totally agree. But I feel that the people who will be worse off and made the biggest sacrifice will have done it in vain because very little will change. The political elites will make sure little changes. That's why we must keep fighting for change. And the first change is brexit. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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