Guard dogs

[Greb147 6,809]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

Like I said your reading one dog mans account of another’s dog It’s an insult o so an so was a man biters same as in the coursing world there’s nothing worse then calling a mans dog a jacker 

 

bull terriers are by nature good dogs round people but showing one it’s ok to bite humans even playing is a mistake if you ask me as been said they will guard anyway with out been shown how to rag on an arm over and over until it thinks it the norm

What are you talking about? Dog men have talked about owning dogs that were man biters, Zebo is an example of a well known man biter. 

I've said I think it's a bad idea to use Pit Bulls for man work, there's plenty of other breeds that are very capable of doing the job. 

[keepdiggin 9,559]

5 hours ago, downsouth said:

That last bit just about sums up your knowledge.Some of the most famous producers in history were known man biters

Ch chinaman was a known man biter

[downsouth 7,248]

59 minutes ago, keepdiggin said:

Ch chinaman was a known man biter

He was and like has been said so was Zebo and probably the most famouse that many lines have been built around Bullyson.

[Elchapo 3,166]

Plenty of game bred yards have man biters in them , there a DVD’s put wich have been made over last 5/10 years and there are man biters in them , there’s been man biters in most yards , like already been said , there’s a couple we’ll know ch and gr champs that were man biters 

[mC HULL 12,432]

Man biting as in trying to kill you or little excited nips any kennel breeding ones that want to do humans serious harm must be barmy 

[Elchapo 3,166]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

Man biting as in trying to kill you or little excited nips any kennel breeding ones that want to do humans serious harm must be barmy 

As in full on grab and shake , TG did a video where he showing a man round his match stuff and warns him to stay away from one who’s sitting wagging his tail as he’s a man biter , there also a video on mountain mans yard with a black 2x winning dog that’s a man biter , plenty of PD dogs are man biters wich plenty his blood carries chinaman stuff , the truth is if you have a man biter and you face him across a box to another dog he’s still going cross the line , there for if he makes ch or gr ch then he’s worth money , me personally I’d cull any man biter if it was a bull or a jack russle , but there’s a difference in a dog taught to do man work and a dog who is just a c**t and bites , I don’t think bulls where used to create bandogs because there natural guarding as I find most bulls shite guard dogs and most crave  human effection and will happily bounce up and down you all day but when lads have them and get them to just be nasty and vicious then they end up a liability, a guarding dog should no when to turn it on and off and should out as soon as told to if they can not be controlled then to me there not a pp dog there just a dog that bites , to some there mite not be a difference but to me there worlds apart 

[downsouth 7,248]

On 08/05/2020 at 15:26, mC HULL said:

Neither is me old lady’s Staffie but if it grabs hold of you it’ll make a mess 

so if they didn’t use a game bred bull terrier
 

 why x them to a mastiff they crossed them to a mastiff because a mastiff is windy so the used bull terrier for gameness but then never used a game bred dog makes sense 

Can you explain what you mean when you say mastiffs are windy.

[mC HULL 12,432]

Them that get excited even seen average lurchers do it if holding collar screaming try to nip your hand the just keen to get on 

them that a grabbing a shaking biting chunks out of you dangerous not on the ball the y kill you 

got to respect any dog that can do damage 

Seen it me self with a staffie me mate had soft as a brush kids diving all over it then me and me popes mate walked in First dog was asleep near door don’t no if he stood on tail or just startled it but boom on his calf like a dog possessed Took some holding still I tell you and still had nice rips with all fat hanging out lol then got to get it off nightmare just glad it wasn’t me lol 
could of been a kid or anyone any dog can turn and when it does a Jack Russell lodes a lot less 

damage then a bull terrier

Edited May 9, 2020 by mC HULL

[mC HULL 12,432]

4 minutes ago, downsouth said:

Can you explain what you mean when you say mastiffs are windy.

What mastiff I been around are like a collie in they put heckles up grow look nasty an old English one me mate had that could bark but they are looking nasty but really it’s nerves like most dogs because your near there property they are making there self big but don’t really want to attack and look at there heads proper power strong aswell 

then you get man biters they aren’t trying to warn you off they jumping in there skin to get hold of you 

you have a windy breed you put terrier into it

same reason they put a terrier to a bulldog 

[morton 5,368]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

What mastiff I been around are like a collie in they put heckles up grow look nasty an old English one me mate had that could bark but they are looking nasty but really it’s nerves like most dogs because your near there property they are making there self big but don’t really want to attack and look at there heads proper power strong aswell 

then you get man biters they aren’t trying to warn you off they jumping in there skin to get hold of you 

you have a windy breed you put terrier into it

same reason they put a terrier to a bulldog 

I thought they put bulldog to the terrier and not the other way round,an awful lot of black terrier kennels were bred the way i came to know because of what the terrier lacked,rather than breed better the known kennels went for a quick and more profitable fix,kerching.

[mC HULL 12,432]

So the put a big bull dog over a terrier to make the terrier better or did the terrier have a heart of a lion and was game and the bull dog was lacking what the terrier had 

the size comes from the bull dog the gameness comes from a terrier 

a bull dog baited so did a bull and terrier cross 

 

how the f**k would a bull and terrier get down an hole a bulldog has nothing to add to a terrier for what a terrier does 

[downsouth 7,248]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

What mastiff I been around are like a collie in they put heckles up grow look nasty an old English one me mate had that could bark but they are looking nasty but really it’s nerves like most dogs because your near there property they are making there self big but don’t really want to attack and look at there heads proper power strong aswell 

then you get man biters they aren’t trying to warn you off they jumping in there skin to get hold of you 

you have a windy breed you put terrier into it

same reason they put a terrier to a bulldog 

So you've come to the conclusion that all mastiffs are windy as you put it because of one you've seen near you.Thats why they need gamedog bred into them.

[mC HULL 12,432]

I’ve seen a few more than one mate see a good few mastiff x bull terrier aswell 
 

As you said the  mastiff lacks drive for pp work  a bull terrier sorts that because of the terrier mentality Has more drive or gameness 
 

same reason the put a terrier to a bull dog in the first place 

[mC HULL 12,432]

An old boy I new had Rhodesian ridgebacks they’d just hold you On command but you new they could do damage I turned when he was f***ing about dog just put it’s front legs on my shoulders and put my neck in it’s mouth with just a little bit a pressure He was creased up barmy old boy he was about 5 foot looking back if dog got him or decided to do more than hold someone he would a been able to do nothing lol

[mushroom 12,903]

22 hours ago, mC HULL said:

I no my animals mate I no what it’s like to try a get a bull terrier off something that’s why I think it’s foolish show them to man bite 

I think society must be f***ing coked up and cracked up paranoid if you think you need a big man biter about you 

there was a reason for hundred years people used herding types as man biters 

and culled man biting bull terriers 

 

Bollocks! This girl will take your arm off if you hurt my mam (disabled and 70 yesterday ) but she'd let go if me mam said so