gnasher16 30,025 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 10/02/2019 at 10:10, VOON said: Cant be much of a dog if a half hearted kick in the chops is going to back it off 1 Quote Link to post
VOON 1,317 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Cant be much of a dog if a half hearted kick in the chops is going to back it off Dude mighta have had heavy feet though..... Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,086 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 02/02/2019 at 05:42, Bundy89 said: The best guard dog isn't going to stop the best intruder. Dogs are only a deterrent,you want them up next to you in a serious home invasion. 1 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,086 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 03/02/2019 at 03:55, billhardy said: As right ray the old ddr types bred for patrolling the borders etc these are great alsation so and some were absorbed in to some lines for there ability to switch off and make great family guardians that's alls yas need I had a dream alsation xed with a lab that ended getting me in front off the bench that animal would not give ground on home situation where we were greatly outnumbered so come out on top he was like three men ,and we walked from the bench the dogs life intact and my freedom seems along time ago now but there yas go ,true I'll leave that to the readers ta believe of not there's one a two on here that now shames has crackers knows the same ten stoner has I do lol.atb bill Good on ya Bill Quote Link to post
bird 9,861 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, VOON said: Dude mighta have had heavy feet though..... just because it a guard breed ,dont mean it will be a brave tough guard dog. they have to be p p trained , and not all make the grade,same as police dogs not all gsd or what ever breed they use. but when proper trained, a 80lb gsd would have stopped that bloke deff ive spoke before about gsdx on a farm i used go to , it big black thing think it had lab in it, this dog would deff bite you ,it was on a chain in the day but loose at night you have to shoot it to get past it . another breed that brave guard dog are boebol , my mate got a bitch,and it great guard , i wouldnt like to test it, 12 st dog running at you lol but think a good gsd when bred right be sharper type guard of the 2 greeds , i go for 1st choise the boebol 2nd . 2 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,086 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I like these bandog types pit/bulldog,I've never even encouraged them to guard,they just were naturals from around 9months.They are great with my family,my other dogs and animals, but view strangers as prey.I live in an isolated area so suit me but know these are too full on for the suburbs. 2 Quote Link to post
robertb123 372 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, bird said: just because it a guard breed ,dont mean it will be a brave tough guard dog. they have to be p p trained , and not all make the grade,same as police dogs not all gsd or what ever breed they use. but when proper trained, a 80lb gsd would have stopped that bloke deff ive spoke before about gsdx on a farm i used go to , it big black thing think it had lab in it, this dog would deff bite you ,it was on a chain in the day but loose at night you have to shoot it to get past it . another breed that brave guard dog are boebol , my mate got a bitch,and it great guard , i wouldnt like to test it, 12 st dog running at you lol but think a good gsd when bred right be sharper type guard of the 2 greeds , i go for 1st choise the boebol 2nd . 45 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said: I like these bandog types pit/bulldog,I've never even encouraged them to guard,they just were naturals from around 9months.They are great with my family,my other dogs and animals, but view strangers as prey.I live in an isolated area so suit me but know these are too full on for the suburbs. I agree it's all in the training, I remember a factory in germany I used to walk past on holiday, during the day when the gates were open the 3 german shepherds would look at you. you could walk past with another dog, it was like there was an invisible line they wouldn't cross. at night when the gates were shut, if you were anywhere near the fence they'd let you know they were there. I like the mastiff/ bandog style of guarding as aussie whip says they take to it naturally, i'd go for the deterent, I haven't got the time to do pp training and I've got nothing worth nicking, except for the dog! Though in Brazil, the way to deal with a dog coming at you is to pick up a bit of garden furniture! 1 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,086 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, robertb123 said: Though in Brazil, the way to deal with a dog coming at you is to pick up a bit of garden furniture! I'd be wanting more than a plastic chair against one of those Fila's.They are a bit sloppy looking but their hatred for humans is appealing for a guard.I think its the Cuban Bloodhound in them. 1 Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 15 hours ago, bird said: just because it a guard breed ,dont mean it will be a brave tough guard dog. they have to be p p trained , and not all make the grade,same as police dogs not all gsd or what ever breed they use. but when proper trained, a 80lb gsd would have stopped that bloke deff ive spoke before about gsdx on a farm i used go to , it big black thing think it had lab in it, this dog would deff bite you ,it was on a chain in the day but loose at night you have to shoot it to get past it . another breed that brave guard dog are boebol , my mate got a bitch,and it great guard , i wouldnt like to test it, 12 st dog running at you lol but think a good gsd when bred right be sharper type guard of the 2 greeds , i go for 1st choise the boebol 2nd . Understanding. This word means a lot .ray his right what he says they have to be trained for personall protection training ,that alsation was defensive drive.given a home environment situation that alsation would have chewed that fella fa Defo.,it's defensive drive would a took over hence a chewed p man a . Alsation rags there prey and have a terrific ripping bite I seen a defensive alsation labradour take a mans shoulder ta the bone with a ripping ragging action home situation different than a garage on its lonesome.the difference with a alsation they can switch off with a flick offa the finger,versatile guardian the best for family type guardians , these crazed type guards that one sees that have no ability ta have full control ain't the best fa family guardians not versatile enough one needs full controll of a situation fact believe me I know .my favourite the alsation with good temp and family oriantated. Band dogs pits my brother kept them worked we have experience of em pit rotten xs mastiff pits cane corso we have some one close who bred them and exported them back great dogs but different than Alsatians the versatility his beyond any other guardian except here smaller cousins the malls and herders.atb bill Quote Link to post
Wild-Bill 500 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Both parents to this from jinopo kennels. Very driven bitch and excellent guard dog. They fetch strong money but more than worth it. 4 Quote Link to post
robertb123 372 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Does no one rate the Rottweiler anymore? Used to be a working one in the off licence up the road from me. He saved the owner a few times, was a great dog. If anyone was loud in the shop he'd come up from behind the counter, plant his paws on the counter and give you a woof to let you know he was there. If you had serious bad intentions I wouldn't have fancied your chances. 2 Quote Link to post
Criss86 69 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, robertb123 said: Does no one rate the Rottweiler anymore? Used to be a working one in the off licence up the road from me. He saved the owner a few times, was a great dog. If anyone was loud in the shop he'd come up from behind the counter, plant his paws on the counter and give you a woof to let you know he was there. If you had serious bad intentions I wouldn't have fancied your chances. I do mate seen some good ones about over the years my brothers had two last one went this year. They had one chained up at the last scrappy I worked at. She was a top guard dog at night when the chain came off! They do suffer with hip dysplasia a lot tho so might b why there not used so much. My bitch is a rottie/boxer x pit and she's is a top guardian of people and property definitely think that's the rottie in her! 1 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,086 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 There's probably no better guard than a good Rotty they are sort of between the herding and mastiff types.Over here fads ruined them a lot. 1 Quote Link to post
Criss86 69 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Not a great pic I might have a better one Quote Link to post
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