Guard dogs

[mC HULL 12,434]

What’s that whippet cross lol dogs react different playing retrieving to when under stress no 70 year old women get a bull terrier off if it meant busuiness 

[downsouth 7,248]

14 hours ago, mC HULL said:

I’ve seen a few more than one mate see a good few mastiff x bull terrier aswell 
 

As you said the  mastiff lacks drive for pp work  a bull terrier sorts that because of the terrier mentality Has more drive or gameness 
 

same reason the put a terrier to a bull dog in the first place 

I meant it adds prey drive.Something which is usefull when training a pp dog especially for somebody that would also like to compete in working trials.Prey drive and gameness or bravery have got absolutely nothing to do with eachother.Have you not thought about the other reasons that bull blood may also have been added to the mastiff to produce bandogs?Its not all about trying to produce a dog that you need a bat to make it release you know.

[mC HULL 12,434]

25 minutes ago, downsouth said:

I meant it adds prey drive.Something which is usefull when training a pp dog especially for somebody that would also like to compete in working trials.Prey drive and gameness or bravery have got absolutely nothing to do with eachother.Have you not thought about the other reasons that bull blood may also have been added to the mastiff to produce bandogs?Its not all about trying to produce a dog that you need a bat to make it release you know.

So they wanted to put a dog to a mastiff To add  high prey drive but no gameness should a used a beagle or spaniel instead  a bull terrier lol
with a bull terrier prey drive and gameness normally hand in hand 

[Greb147 6,809]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

So they wanted to put a dog to a mastiff To add  high prey drive but no gameness should a used a beagle or spaniel instead  a bull terrier lol
with a bull terrier prey drive and gameness normally hand in hand 

Just because you use APBT and cross it with another dog doesn't automatically mean they will be game dogs, hell even most APBT's are not game. 

[mC HULL 12,434]

You get a bull terrier put it to grey they might not be dog aggressive game but are game when it comes to things there hunting 

[downsouth 7,248]

4 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Just because you use APBT and cross it with another dog doesn't automatically mean they will be game dogs, hell even most APBT's are not game. 

Spot on.Especially once you've watered it down to 25% or less and then selectively bred for traits that have nothing to do with what bulldogs were originally bred for.

[downsouth 7,248]

4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

You get a bull terrier put it to grey they might not be dog aggressive game but are game when it comes to things there hunting 

A massive percentage aren't though

[downsouth 7,248]

10 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

So they wanted to put a dog to a mastiff To add  high prey drive but no gameness should a used a beagle or spaniel instead  a bull terrier lol
with a bull terrier prey drive and gameness normally hand in hand 

Did you not read everything I wrote and questioned you on or do you just pick little bits so you can come back with stupid answers.

[mC HULL 12,434]

I’ll make it simple for You if a bull terrier was human and a bloke slaps is birds arse you’d drop what you had in your hand straight away throw down 

if that bloke was a mastiff he’d huff puff Make a noise  and do f**k all 

the mastiff has prey drive it wantS to bite but it’s not game enough To engage 

[mC HULL 12,434]

7 minutes ago, downsouth said:

Spot on.Especially once you've watered it down to 25% or less and then selectively bred for traits that have nothing to do with what bulldogs were originally bred for.

So why put it in there in the first place

[mC HULL 12,434]

8 minutes ago, downsouth said:

A massive percentage aren't though

Vast majority I’ve seen are though 

[downsouth 7,248]

8 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Vast majority I’ve seen are 

By that reply Im pretty certain that you dont know what gameness really is

[downsouth 7,248]

13 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

So why put it in there in the first place

If you cant work it out for yourself it just proves that you really havnt got a clue but Id already worked that out from your stupid posts a couple of days ago.

[mC HULL 12,434]

What’s gameness still scratching when legs are broke and nearly dead yes that’s a dead game dog if your fighting them 

for you pp in would be to initially atack and take some stick then the dogs game how game depending how far it’ll go 

[mC HULL 12,434]

2 minutes ago, downsouth said:

If you cant work it out for yourself it just proves that you really havnt got a clue but Id already worked that out from your stupid posts a couple of days ago.

If you can’t explain it to me and you no all this stuff about the type a dogs  you keep than it’s really pot calling kettle black 

or the blind leading the dumb lol