Guard dogs

[downsouth 7,302]

2 minutes ago, Elchapo said:

I used to follow a lad from off instergram from Birmingham who was breeding some nice looking animals he had a couple with docked tail and clipped ears wich personally I liked , I nearly got one but I didn’t as I kinda figured that if someone wanted to steal something they would just poison the dog so never botherd , in a way I was glad I didn’t get one off him  as after a while I met another lad who was mates with him and he said he had a great litter on the floor for £700 a pup out of a 12 month old apbt and a 2 year old bandog and the state of the kennels and yard was reminiscent of war torn Libya  

Plenty of them about mate.In fact I'd  say they're in the majority 

[keepdiggin 9,561]

Will any pups be spare?

[Elchapo 3,167]

40 minutes ago, downsouth said:

Plenty of them about mate.In fact I'd  say they're in the majority 

Yea I can imagine soon as the chavs get hold of something that looks like one they will be bred to shite for coin, out curiosity how much is a fair price for these if bred in uk , I can see the imported stuff been expensive , which I suppose keeps the nuggets away for a little while 

[downsouth 7,302]

17 minutes ago, Elchapo said:

Yea I can imagine soon as the chavs get hold of something that looks like one they will be bred to shite for coin, out curiosity how much is a fair price for these if bred in uk , I can see the imported stuff been expensive , which I suppose keeps the nuggets away for a little while 

Theyre already being bred to shit anyway mate by peddlers that go under the disguise of working dog men.Merles are the big money spinner at the moment because everone knows they're better if they're a silly colour.Price can vary so much mate like anything it depends on who you know and if youre lucky enough to know proper lads as the security/pp dog game is worse that the hunting dog game for peddlers and chancers.

[mC HULL 12,535]

How you get them to out can’t imagine these letting go on command 

[downsouth 7,302]

7 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

How you get them to out can’t imagine these letting go on command 

Why not

[downsouth 7,302]

1 hour ago, keepdiggin said:

Will any pups be spare?

Dont know untill we see what she has

[mC HULL 12,535]

5 minutes ago, downsouth said:

Why not

Well for a start theres heavy game bred dogs in the make up how game are the dogs used if they let go on command 

[mC HULL 12,535]

The reason they use herding types for pp is because they will out they are one of the only breeds that can do something with prey drive but switch it off when commanded 

you only have to be around hunting dogs to no the trait you get a saluki grey a bull grey a terrier x grey and a collie x grey 

out of them breeds theres only one you could have off a lead While a fox is in sight and command to stay and it would the rest a wall infront wouldn’t stop them the collie cross will dance on tip toes until you say go 
 

 

 

[downsouth 7,302]

4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Well for a start theres heavy game bred dogs in the make up how game are the dogs used if they let go on command 

My bitch will out anything on command.Even after 6months of bite development and building drive she outed the sleve the first time I told her to because id tought her right from a pup that she had to release whatever she had in her mouth when I gave her the out command.She'll even drop whatever she has in her mouth if my 8year old daughter tells her out.

[mC HULL 12,535]

The dogs playing mate when it grabs something properly and it’s switched you won’t out that with a bat 

[downsouth 7,302]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

The reason they use herding types for pp is because they will out they are one of the only breeds that can do something with prey drive but switch it off when commanded 

you only have to be around hunting dogs to no the trait you get a saluki grey a bull grey a terrier x grey and a collie x grey 

out of them breeds theres only one you could have off a lead While a fox is in sight and command to stay and it would the rest a wall infront wouldn’t stop them the collie cross will dance on tip toes until you say go 
 

 

 

Ive seen plenty of herding breeds with very poor obedience that wont out on command It all depends on the owner/trainer

[downsouth 7,302]

Just now, mC HULL said:

The dogs playing mate when it grabs something properly and it’s switched you won’t out that with a bat 

Do you actually have any practical experience with training pp/guard dogs.

[mC HULL 12,535]

Just now, downsouth said:

Ive seen plenty of herding breeds with very poor obedience that wont out on command It all depends on the owner/trainer

Lol how many breeds can chase a sheep but stop from killing it 

a dog won’t go near sheep or it will kill them 

the only dog With the trait that can control the killing part is herding types 

[mC HULL 12,535]

1 minute ago, downsouth said:

Do you actually have any practical experience with training pp/guard dogs.

Lol No mate a you

and I never seen anything game bred that stops on command lol