Chid 6,487 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Get an Alaunt they can do everything and only £500 a pup Quote Link to post
ginger beard 4,652 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, downsouth said: Trouble is mate a lot of the lines that are classed as the best have actually got the worse dominance issues.i personally know of 4 that have completely out of the blue flipped out on their owners for no reason.Luckily 2 of the fellas were very experienced dog trainers/handlers that realised what was happening before itgot too out of hand and sorted things quickly another made a bit of a mess of a lad but luckily his mates had the bottle to help him.The other put my mates pregnant missus in hospital for 5months kept on morphine untill their son was born then had to endure years of reconstruction surgery.Ive also known a couple of very experienced dog lads put presas down at about 3years old when the dogs started pushing their luck. They should ask king for help.the sire to his pup actually worked on the big brother set.if can get very wild on eviction night.upto 30 people. 3 Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,143 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 hours ago, ginger beard said: Anybody know of a breeder of fit and healthy bull mastiffs.? Nearest thing to a bull mastiff that are still fit and healthy and have something about them are Boerboels.Thats if you want a purebreed rather than a cross. 2 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,525 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Funny about the presa dominance, was it dogs and bitches that did it? i spoke to few Akita owners that had their males castrated at 2-3 years old for similar reasons . Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,411 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 One of them ovcharka things got out near mine before Christmas and went on a biting spree, no need for a bloody dog like that in this country and there's getting more and more of them . 1 Quote Link to post
ginger beard 4,652 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 47 minutes ago, downsouth said: Nearest thing to a bull mastiff that are still fit and healthy and have something about them are Boerboels.Thats if you want a purebreed rather than a cross. Cheers but i'll see what davina mcall thinks first. 1 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, gnipper said: One of them ovcharka things got out near mine before Christmas and went on a biting spree, no need for a bloody dog like that in this country and there's getting more and more of them . Them ones i seen dont seem to like leaving the place they know. I had a youngster that would sit next to an open gate thats why there good for big places as they quite territorial 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,256 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 8 hours ago, ginger beard said: i was just having a look. "Worked on the big brother set" wow i bet he was good then.only the best work for big brother.it was probably shagging ryland. Northern or Southern Ryland ? 1 Quote Link to post
robertb123 372 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 4 hours ago, downsouth said: Nearest thing to a bull mastiff that are still fit and healthy and have something about them are Boerboels.Thats if you want a purebreed rather than a cross. Nearly all the purebred molossers I've seen lately have been poor examples when compared to their ancestors, saying that there's a bullmastiff near me that's like the old type, athletic but I don't think it's 100% pure, probably a good thing. I know a fella with a presa mastiff cross, lovely dog and very stable. If I was to go for a molosser type i'd definitely get a cross. 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,859 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Wat was the black ins that were called Celtic mastiffs? Used see them advertised a bit yeh i remember reading about them few years ago , think there rottie type xs , big back dogs , and prob daft prices for them , but being honest the boerboel is prob what i go for if wanting mastiff type guard, but you pay alot for them, my mates bitch cost think said £1500 quid , rather get a x bred gsd from scrap yard , as long as it barked and bit of size to it, it would put off most people, my gsdx grey Buck looks the part, but daft as brush lol, rather have that than , a dog that might turn on owners you like them presa do . no good that in any type dog more so big dogs like them . 2 Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,143 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 10 hours ago, W. Katchum said: Wat was the black ins that were called Celtic mastiffs? Used see them advertised a bit Haha.The Emperors new clothes.Just another bandog type cross with a silly story and a big price tag same as them Serbian defence dogs.My pal who has the Dobe and the really good bandogs had a hardon for them SDDs a couple of years back with their cropped ears and mad colours and vids of them acting all mean and was sure that they must do something that we'd never seen before thats why they were 3/5k.I kept asking him "what are they gunna do that yours dont"but he was convinced they must be better coz they come from serbia.Luckily some other mug who had big ideas of making a fortune with these new superdogs imported a couple.The last i heard the male had gone through 3 or 4 different trainers hands and was still being touted as just needs a bit more time and he'll be a goodun.£1000 1 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 44,959 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 12 hours ago, W. Katchum said: Wat was the black ins that were called Celtic mastiffs? Used see them advertised a bit used to be an ad in cmw mag 10/15 yr ago???know a lad that was from up my way was breeding them,called them 'keepers dog's....mix of neo,presa,pit and rotty.....mad thing was they never threw the black and tan colours of the rotty,most were a deep chestnut red ,black brindle or chocolate colour.very athletic dogs the ones I saw,later on he added greyhound to them for working the F.O.D, Quote Link to post
two crows 3,342 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 very interesting thread this, but what are ordinary people so scared of that they need a fking time bomb in their lives. 10 2 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,256 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, two crows said: very interesting thread this, but what are ordinary people so scared of that they need a fking time bomb in their lives. You wouldn't want to come across blackneck on a dark night frock tucked into duds chin full of bean juice masquerading as the keen new beat keeper 3 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,693 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Daniel cain said: used to be an ad in cmw mag 10/15 yr ago???know a lad that was from up my way was breeding them,called them 'keepers dog's....mix of neo,presa,pit and rotty.....mad thing was they never threw the black and tan colours of the rotty,most were a deep chestnut red ,black brindle or chocolate colour.very athletic dogs the ones I saw,later on he added greyhound to them for working the F.O.D, 'Blackening the mastiff' lol. Had an old 'brief' associate that 'supposedly' had it on good authority, that there was black staffs/pits bred into the line that were already throwing really dark brindles. Whether that was true or not, I wouldn't know, as said associate was most of the time I knew him, full of shit himself lol. Hence why he was a 'brief' associate lol Edited January 5, 2019 by shaaark Quote Link to post
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