downsouth 7,143 Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, Penda said: You've been watching to many shitty gangster films mate I'd never trust a dog like that in a million liability that is and why somebody would want to put there dog into situations like that is beyond me a shepherd will bark if you want into or bite depends on the commands Some times a good loud bark will drop people to there knees with out anything else being done hence why there used by police security army etc a good dog should read a situation not just jump in all guns a blazing I know of several guys in the security/eviction industry that have at least one dog that are exactly the same as the above dog.A lot of the normal jobs they do a shepherd that barks may be enough but where the earn the good money is taking jobs where you dont want to be relying on people dropping to their knees because a shepherd has barked at them.I personally wouldnt want to own or have the responsibly of a dog like that but then i dont work or put myself in some of the situations that these fellas do.But if i was going to go to work in some of the situations some of the lads ive trained with work in and i had to take a barker or horribe c**t i know who id feel more comfortable with on the end of the lead.Ive seen way too many security trained shepherds fold when the pressure is really stuck on them. 2 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) The ones i like to see are the quiet ones with that stare they see you similar to how a terrier sees a rat n aint gonna risk scaring u off by barking or showing teeth lol Edited October 25, 2018 by C.green 1 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 21/10/2018 at 20:36, downsouth said: No mate.Im not really one for recording stuff as i dont like having stuff on my phone of them doing bite work or anything that could be used against me if a situation went wrong one day.Quite a few of the lads i know are constantly sticking stuff on fb which i keep telling them could come back and bite them on the arse.I dont think its going to be long before there will be a big crackdown on people doing bitework/protection taining.Nobody in my village even knows what my big dog is or what shes capable of they just think shes a big old dopey mutt that bounds about a plays with their little dogs and throws herself on her back to have her belly rubbed by their kids. Good way to be i think far too many video and share far too much.me n a pal went to a trial for a look they had people there filming the lot and sticking it on social media i think the germans have it right no filming or pics and only spectate if youve a dog competing. 1 Quote Link to post
Bearfoot 1,477 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Penda said: You've been watching to many shitty gangster films mate I'd never trust a dog like that in a million liability that is and why somebody would want to put there dog into situations like that is beyond me a shepherd will bark if you want into or bite depends on the commands Some times a good loud bark will drop people to there knees with out anything else being done hence why there used by police security army etc a good dog should read a situation not just jump in all guns a blazing Enjoyed this lock stock and two smoking shits make a good film this stuff hilarious Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,143 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 4 hours ago, C.green said: Good way to be i think far too many video and share far too much.me n a pal went to a trial for a look they had people there filming the lot and sticking it on social media i think the germans have it right no filming or pics and only spectate if youve a dog competing. Theres a group of German lads come and put on a trial over here once a year and they have a no photos or video's rule.At least for the gold class that gets pretty rough at times.Funnily.enough ive never seen a shepherd do anyrhing in the gold class it always seems to be bull blooded or presa type dogs with a higher fight drive that seem to do well.In fact ive seen the main guy run shepheds off the field and back to their vans a couplle of times. Quote Link to post
Boristheblade 1,367 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, downsouth said: Theres a group of German lads come and put on a trial over here once a year and they have a no photos or video's rule.At least for the gold class that gets pretty rough at times.Funnily.enough ive never seen a shepherd do anyrhing in the gold class it always seems to be bull blooded or presa type dogs with a higher fight drive that seem to do well.In fact ive seen the main guy run shepheds off the field and back to their vans a couplle of times. Alrite then Walter Quote Link to post
elisderyn 496 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, downsouth said: Theres a group of German lads come and put on a trial over here once a year and they have a no photos or video's rule.At least for the gold class that gets pretty rough at times.Funnily.enough ive never seen a shepherd do anyrhing in the gold class it always seems to be bull blooded or presa type dogs with a higher fight drive that seem to do well.In fact ive seen the main guy run shepheds off the field and back to their vans a couplle of times. Is that the competition that they do at night down near Heathrow somewhere?If it is my buddy who trains security and protection dogs was telling me about it.Said them Germans were smashing dogs all over the place.He said the one German a big crazy skinhead looking guy made a couple of dogs stop without even touching them. Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, downsouth said: Theres a group of German lads come and put on a trial over here once a year and they have a no photos or video's rule.At least for the gold class that gets pretty rough at times.Funnily.enough ive never seen a shepherd do anyrhing in the gold class it always seems to be bull blooded or presa type dogs with a higher fight drive that seem to do well.In fact ive seen the main guy run shepheds off the field and back to their vans a couplle of times. Because it designed for presa i think Edited October 25, 2018 by C.green Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,143 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, C.green said: Because it designed for presa i think that one your talking about ? A dobes passed thst gold ya know I was there that year.That was a very rare dobe and very impresive.My pal came second to it with his old dog that i put a pic up of a few days ago when the dog was 8/9 years old.Them lads dont half give them gold class dogs some stick but to be fair if i was gunna do a few of the jobs my pal does id want to know my dog had been fully tested the was his have and that their arses wernt gunna fall out. Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Deffo mate opens ya eyes abit doesnt it. Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,143 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 It was funny to hear lads the week before saying what their dogs were gunna do and how hardcore they'd been training.Only to see them a week later walking off the field heads down dragging their dogs behind them with their tails up their arses. Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, downsouth said: It was funny to hear lads the week before saying what their dogs were gunna do and how hardcore they'd been training.Only to see them a week later walking off the field heads down dragging their dogs behind them with their tails up their arses. Its not a test if some aint failing. Not for me all that stuff though to be honest Quote Link to post
bird 9,860 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, downsouth said: I was there that year.That was a very rare dobe and very impresive.My pal came second to it with his old dog that i put a pic up of a few days ago when the dog was 8/9 years old.Them lads dont half give them gold class dogs some stick but to be fair if i was gunna do a few of the jobs my pal does id want to know my dog had been fully tested the was his have and that their arses wernt gunna fall out. my mates Boerboel bitch i told you about , she prob not like some of the bandogs, etc thats been bred and tested to the full, she prob soft temp compared to alot of dogs been shown on here .But fook me if she was like them in temp , she would just bust you up 100% . i went round to see him to ask to look after my 2 dogs for a day got a wedding on dec, he got couple of Italian hunting hounds and this Boerboel bitch , she 2 1/2 now about 24in and like a tank god knows whats she weighs , Buck 86 lb but he 28in , god knows what she weighs more like 12st i reckon . he had prob with her knees had to have a Op on one of them £3000 quid feck lot of cash that for a dog. i told him i think the breed to heavy and it showed , told him there plenty of x bred mastiff types prob better guards and more healthy 80-100lb stop any man, bloody hell Buck could stop a bloke piss easy with his power/size if he had the nature but daft as brush , he be ok if a fox broke in to my house thats about it haha . i like Boerboel they 100 % look the part, but in my book far to heavy and in doing so , full of health probs , a vet told once when dogs get over 100 lb the more probs you will get with hips/shoulders .! 1 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,083 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, bird said: over 100 lb the more probs you will get with hips/shoulders .! Also their athleticism,working ability drops off when there over 100lb,thats with Am bulldogs.Thats why I crossed mine with a apbt and got a very athletic guard,but happy to lay about when off duty.They are around 80lb. 4 Quote Link to post
Busher100 739 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 33 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said: Also their athleticism,working ability drops off when there over 100lb,thats with Am bulldogs.Thats why I crossed mine with a apbt and got a very athletic guard,but happy to lay about when off duty.They are around 80lb. Any better pics of them mate Quote Link to post
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