Lid 194 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Not impressed: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/i-locked-myself-in-car-as-westminster-bridge-attacker-struck-says-met-chief-a3956456.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,706 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 could have launched the car at him instead of just sitting there , ,see he got a bunch of medal ribbons on his uniform , were they for playing chess , and snakes and ladders// 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 I read this one a little earlier and I'm of mixed opinions. He was unarmed. Had no body armour and was in a vehicle with two unarmed and untrained people. On the flip side, we're always told that we're not capable of doing these things ourselves because that's the domain of the police. Had he intervened he realistically could have been fatally wounded. As he didn't his conduct is under suspicion because he didn't do anything. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,289 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Coward. If the attacker had a firearm I’d expect everyone unarmed to seek cover.., but he didn’t. A man armed with a knife can be over-powered and disarmed with numbers. He failed in his duty and he failed his colleague. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Sir Craig said he heard two shots as armed officers came past his car and killed Masood, and he then unlocked the doors and got out. "One of the Pcs, quite rightly, said: ‘Get out, make safe, go, shut the door,’ which he did, and it was the right thing to do,” he said. It's an easy call from after the event but if you're sat in a car just how are you expected to get out and overpower a man that is waiting for you? He's armed and in condition red and waiting for the opportunity a few feet away. You are sat in a car, unarmed and manipulating a door handle and you're expecting to be able to get out of the vehicle and confront the attacker while he waits for you to clear the car. Based on your current situation you don't know that your armed colleagues are in a reasonable proximity and if you're incapacitated you're also risking the lives of your passengers. I'm more concerned by the mindset that allows a senior police officer to be unarmed and without comms than his failure to leave the vehicle. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 He is a pure coward ... anybody with a backbone wouldn’t even weigh up the options you launch in and try and save your blokes ... he should lead from the front ... of that was one of his officers he would be sacking them ........ 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,539 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 nothing like helping your mate out is there,you watch my back and I will watch yours from the car the blokes a coward Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,539 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 to be truthefull id be ashamed to admit I done that to one of my team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Career cop! Spent very little time doing any police work. Fast as he could get to the top job. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Don't forget the police motto "Run, hide, tell." He must have invented it, the yellow b*****d. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,537 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: Least he should of done was try knock the Cnut over' how can his colleagues take orders from him after that. 9 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Why didn’t he drive away or run cnut over or anything instead a just sat there trembling like a shitting whippet likes been said A lesser officer would a been in his office getting his p45 He was in a chauffeur driven car .. he would of been in the back seat , and maybe he didn’t get out because the child locks were on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 If he wasn't that keen to get his fat hole out the car he at the very least rolled the window down and shouted over ",hey ya black b*****d leave him alone" ! Then he'd probably have tried to get at him sat behind his locked door. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,777 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Wonder how you square that with yourself ..knowing you did nothing but safeguard yourself when one of your men , who was left to guard what must be one of the top targets in the country without the means to defend himself against a knife attack let alone someone with a firearm , is being attacked and killed would haunt me every day of my life .. That copper was sacrificed due to senior officers neglect..How the man on the gate who has first contact with any assailants isn’t armed beggars belief ..it would seem not only are the senior officers negligent but cowards as well . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Question of for the panel. If he had got out and been able to confront the attacker, was seriously/fatally injured in the process and the knifeman was able to inflict more casualties because the aim of the two armed police was now blocked by the unarmed chief what would the reaction be? Genuinely curious as this debate crops up a lot at work and it's interesting reading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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