jake824 517 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 I must add that I respect the lad for ringing and telling me the bitch had jacked as a lot of dog men would have said nothing so hat off to him for his honesty 3 Quote Link to post
NEWKID 27,740 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, C.green said: How can you lads say about minimum 5 hard seasons n all that ? Nothing is set in stone you give your dogs enough you know if they got it or not its that simple.i know dogs that at 3/4 year old want retiring because theyve had so much hammer. Id rather buy a pup off some of the youngsters about getting out there and filling the boot then some of the old timers that live off days gone by. Same with seeing parents run not allways possible nowadays is it. You ask ten people with young dogs did they see either parents go out i bet most give the same answer if there honest. All it needs is folk to be honest about what they have really and save everyone abit of hassle. It's a tough one, I agree you should know what the dog is about after 3 or 4 seasons... plus if the parents were going strong after 7 or so seasons that would give you an idea too... My mate is desperate to put his 10 year old dog over my bitch, she's 4 in June and has done ok so far, the dog is a machine, I've seen it from 8 weeks old and spent the last 9 years or so watching it work, there is no doubt it deserves to sire a litter...my bitch is certainly on paper the right dog to put him over... but.... is 4 old enough? Not that I need to ask on here, more asking myself...I don't want her to be ruined in anyway by having a litter either at her prime...but the dog will be gone soon enough.... None will be sold if I did do it (already 4 people to take a pup)..I just wouldn't jump in without weighing up all pros and cons first...age being only 1 of the considerations.. 2 1 Quote Link to post
Smashing reds 479 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 And the biggest problem is the young lads today don't know a bad dog when they see them. Rating dogs as top class when they are pure dirth.....then breeding off them 3 Quote Link to post
Smashing reds 479 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 45 minutes ago, NEWKID said: It's a tough one, I agree you should know what the dog is about after 3 or 4 seasons... plus if the parents were going strong after 7 or so seasons that would give you an idea too... My mate is desperate to put his 10 year old dog over my bitch, she's 4 in June and has done ok so far, the dog is a machine, I've seen it from 8 weeks old and spent the last 9 years or so watching it work, there is no doubt it deserves to sire a litter...my bitch is certainly on paper the right dog to put him over... but.... is 4 old enough? Not that I need to ask on here, more asking myself...I don't want her to be ruined in anyway by having a litter either at her prime...but the dog will be gone soon enough.... None will be sold if I did do it (already 4 people to take a pup)..I just wouldn't jump in without weighing up all pros and cons first...age being only 1 of the considerations.. There wouldn't be as much shite around the place if people had your frame of mind mate. I totally agree with you ? 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,875 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Black neck said: I wernt gonna breed off mine cos the bitch wernt quite right but now there both brilliant And Xmas is coming Don't go all out on me mate, an orange, some mixed nuts, and a small toy will do for me Quote Link to post
Pirate 9000 676 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 New kid if the dog done 10 seasons and your happy with your bitch get it mated,keep only the pups you need, 10 years is good age for working dog,I've never kept a dog wants it's working life is over got nothing against lads who's workers has well has pets just for me kennel space is for worker's only. 1 Quote Link to post
Councilestatekid 1,998 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 On the other side of this the best dog I've seen work took everything single handed never jacked had good coat good feet never had a serious injury usual odd cut here and there.worked hard for many seasons was put to a decent bitch all the pups went to good lads and working homes at the time I really wanted a pup off him but had more than enough dogs on so had to decline the offer.all the pups were well brought on excellent lookers etc but all injury prone only bitch in the litter jacked on teeth and constantly had feet injury's so did a few of the dogs a dog had a dodgy back out of the 7 pups not 1 made the grade or lasted a working life ended up nice looking pets 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,462 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, low plains drifter said: Don't go all out on me mate, an orange, some mixed nuts, and a small toy will do for me Small toy Simon Sounds dubious Edited September 13, 2018 by Black neck Wrong bloke Quote Link to post
stumfelter 3,034 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 If I were buying a pup I'd want the parents to be at least fifteen years old so I knew the line was long lived. 1 2 Quote Link to post
Lozzer 237 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, stumfelter said: It's not just newbies that want breed lurchers in that way, but older people at the dogs all the life .that's just a margin of people. So crack on, don't believe the hype and breed only for yourself when you need a dog for the future for the right reasons and don't be misled Quote Link to post
NEWKID 27,740 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Pirate 9000 said: New kid if the dog done 10 seasons and your happy with your bitch get it mated,keep only the pups you need, 10 years is good age for working dog,I've never kept a dog wants it's working life is over got nothing against lads who's workers has well has pets just for me kennel space is for worker's only. Can't believe the dog has made old bones mate tbh, but a few have seen it work and like I say I've watched it from a pup... It's a decision for after this season, he's pretty much retired now... Quote Link to post
Loton Moocher 1,255 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 had me own mutts over 40years now and not bred a litter since 1986 and doubt I ever will again ? nowt like lurcher pups to bring out every idiot around your home talking shite and wasteing your time ? anyway only use half x beddy/greys so a lot easier to buy in and saves a whole lot of hassel ? 1 Quote Link to post
blackmaggie 3,377 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 It's a tricky one I have Seen seasoned dogs lined with excellent breeding behind them and produce nothing like there parents etc yet some accidentall mating produced some good dogs me personally I wouldn't breed a litter as I haven't got anything worthy of breeding from imo there's better out there if you look hard enough but my mate has a very good bitch with some good breeding behind her very up and at them running style i don't think she is the sort to make old bones he didn't line this time and even he says she might not be here next year so he might of missed out on her but who's to say she will produce there's a lot of thought that must go in to a litter than just chucking to dogs together that have had a couple of good night's but that doesn't always seem the case and it's not always young lads 1 Quote Link to post
dogmandont 10,059 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 I think a lot has to do with lads not wanting to run bitches on, the same with terriers so they settle for mediocre bitches to breed from , I’ve had bitches here that friends have asked me to take a litter from but I thought they weren’t good enough but looking back they definitely were and should have been bred, it’s only when their gone and you try and replace em that you realise what you had. 2 Quote Link to post
Steviec 190 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 13/09/2018 at 14:45, Pirate 9000 said: New kid if the dog done 10 seasons and your happy with your bitch get it mated,keep only the pups you need, 10 years is good age for working dog,I've never kept a dog wants it's working life is over got nothing against lads who's workers has well has pets just for me kennel space is for worker's only. So what do you do with your dogs once their working life is over?, genuine question . Quote Link to post
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