TOMO 26,264 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 thought mumps in kids older than puberty left you sterile Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 The Wakefield study, which alleged a link between the MMR vaccine and autism, was utterly discredited several years ago. Measles can be fatal - even today, with all our scientific advances, tens of thousands die of it. If you're worried about the increasing risk of infection, particularly for your kids, the only sensible thing to do is make sure they're vaccinated ! Most of us are of an age which saw almost universal immunisation against measles, but if your kids haven't been jabbed, get it done ! The last available figures show that around 73,000 people worldwide die annually of measles - they weren't the first, and they won't be the last ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, TOMO said: thought mumps in kids older than puberty left you sterile It's unusual, but is a potential risk in both boys and girls of all ages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,264 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Blackbriar said: The Wakefield study, which alleged a link between the MMR vaccine and autism, was utterly discredited several years ago. Measles can be fatal - even today, with all our scientific advances, tens of thousands die of it. If you're worried about the increasing risk of infection, particularly for your kids, the only sensible thing to do is make sure they're vaccinated ! Most of us are of an age which saw almost universal immunisation against measles, but if your kids haven't been jabbed, get it done ! The last available figures show that around 73,000 people worldwide die annually of measles - they weren't the first, and they won't be the last ! what is it that kills them blackbriar?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, TOMO said: what is it that kills them blackbriar?? For any infection to take hold, it first has to suppress your immune system, which makes you vulnerable to secondary infection, such as bronchitis or gastroenteritis - which is why children are particularly vulnerable to measles. In most instances, it's not the initial infection that kills, it's secondary infection ("complications") 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,264 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 cheers ...yes I hadn't thought of that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, TOMO said: cheers ...yes I hadn't thought of that It's true of nearly all infectious diseases that can lead to death, mate. Most AiDS patients, for instance, actually die of pneumonia, because the disease has compromised their immunity to such an extent that the patient can't fight off a simple infection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,176 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 And tommy helps them come in.. with the work he does for the jews lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,540 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 something I never had as a kid,that or chicken pox Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted March 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, maxhardcore said: Stats are now thru the roof due to unchecked and unvetted migration. Cite your sources. 9.2 per 100,000 is hardly through the roof. Edited March 5, 2019 by ChrisJones 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,594 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, j j m said: something I never had as a kid,that or chicken pox I had chicken pox as an adult in my 20s knocked the shit out of me, it hits adults much harder than kids apparently, I was in a right mess for a good few days ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted March 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: What was it 20-30-40 years ago in GB ? According to a very basic internet search there were 117,000 cases in 1913. This dropped to 5000 in 1987 and had rose to 7600 in 2005. The slight rise is attributed to drug resistant strains and people either refusing to vaccinate or not completing treatments. 15 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: That 9.2 per 100k is that known cases ???? What about unknown ????? The NHS will accept anyone that turns up for any alleged ailment. They take regular calls from people who can't get a taxi from a pub. I sincerely doubt that there is a pandemic of undiagnosed TB cases in Britain, as medical professionals generally look for these symptoms at triage which is why I asked if you would cite your sources. I understand that the vast majority of TB cases originate outside the UK but I also know that homelessness, substance abuse, and prison time play a massive factor in it's transmission also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, maxhardcore said: What about unknown ????? Say again...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, ChrisJones said: According to a very basic internet search there were 117,000 cases in 1913. This dropped to 5000 in 1987 and had rose to 7600 in 2005. The slight rise is attributed to drug resistant strains and people either refusing to vaccinate or not completing treatments. The NHS will accept anyone that turns up for any alleged ailment. They take regular calls from people who can't get a taxi from a pub. I sincerely doubt that there is a pandemic of undiagnosed TB cases in Britain, as medical professionals generally look for these symptoms at triage which is why I asked if you would cite your sources. I understand that the vast majority of TB cases originate outside the UK but I also know that homelessness, substance abuse, and prison time play a massive factor in it's transmission also. It's impossible to know the number of undiagnosed cases, but there has been a definite rise in diagnosed cases in recent years. I remember reading about this a few years back, and a quick search found this....... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/615109/London-TB-capital-Europe-mass-migration-poverty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Greyman said: I had chicken pox as an adult in my 20s knocked the shit out of me, it hits adults much harder than kids apparently, I was in a right mess for a good few days ?? The good Lady BB suffers regular hours of shingles, the residual virus which childhood chickenpox leaves behind. Very painful, debilitating and makes her very ill for anything up to a fortnight ! ........she had it 6 or 7 times last year, and twice this year already ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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