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No need for all the powders and potions if you feed a good mixed balanced diet 

Obviously parasites exist in nature, but when you look at how wild animals live, as opposed to domestic animals which are cooped up in the same place all the time, seeding the ground with worm eggs et

If you're running them that hard that a good diet isnt enough youre either not feeding as good as you think you are or you're giving the dog more work than its capable of taking.Either way that stuff

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1 minute ago, socks said:

I will go back to my original question to you.  Put up what vitamins and minerals you get when you feed your dogs their daily diet. You obviously know don't you ??? ........

There's no need to be a scientist socks a complete diet for a jukel his achieved ove a period not daily proteins adzactly to the measure that's foolish thinking much like the modern complete feeders do you believe a jukel  adzacting amounts of proteins animo acids minerals vita the same daily his the way foreward ,I don't I believe stressing ones internal organs with overloaded structures of proteins animosity vita etc can also be a problem for our jukel feed thy jukels raw thy and complete over time ,less chance of spongy bone fast growing and stressing the internal organs I would be a boastful fool to even feel the need da a total breakdown of what my jukels take on board daily ,circumstances they all different even from the same nest same but different slow metabolism fast metabolism same but different why would any man need to know every specific bit mineral etc of his jukels daily ,I'll tell who the type who uses buts and minerals like sa37  your jukels will tell thee best if they taking on bord there full needs and that includes to much .atb bill

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5 minutes ago, billhardy said:

There's no need to be a scientist socks a complete diet for a jukel his achieved ove a period not daily proteins adzactly to the measure that's foolish thinking much like the modern complete feeders do you believe a jukel  adzacting amounts of proteins animo acids minerals vita the same daily his the way foreward ,I don't I believe stressing ones internal organs with overloaded structures of proteins animosity vita etc can also be a problem for our jukel feed thy jukels raw thy and complete over time ,less chance of spongy bone fast growing and stressing the internal organs I would be a boastful fool to even feel the need da a total breakdown of what my jukels take on board daily ,circumstances they all different even from the same nest same but different slow metabolism fast metabolism same but different why would any man need to know every specific bit mineral etc of his jukels daily ,I'll tell who the type who uses buts and minerals like sa37  your jukels will tell thee best if they taking on bord there full needs and that includes to much .atb bill

Then why come on here giving it the big man if you don't even know what vitamins your giving your dogs and what your not ... if you want to discuss or dismiss something at least have the knowledge and back up to debate it ... I can guarantee that I feed a more varied diet of flesh than you do as apart from a freezer full of game I get all the butchers offcuts from my mates butcher shop plus the veg and fruits I blitz down and mix in so what my dogs get is a full on complete diet but that doesn't mean that adding a supplement won't give them that extra little bit ... just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean it's wrong. People thought fire was evil once upon a time. You have to move with the times ...... 

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Just now, Saltmoon said:

Arden Grange all you need ? well that's what mine gets unless he helps himself then he has the odd choc bar , birthday cake , carrots, raw beef lamb mince, chicken whatever he reaches and he doin just fine ? 

But he don't like cider but don't mind abit of Guinness 

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31 minutes ago, socks said:

Then why come on here giving it the big man if you don't even know what vitamins your giving your dogs and what your not ... if you want to discuss or dismiss something at least have the knowledge and back up to debate it ... I can guarantee that I feed a more varied diet of flesh than you do as apart from a freezer full of game I get all the butchers offcuts from my mates butcher shop plus the veg and fruits I blitz down and mix in so what my dogs get is a full on complete diet but that doesn't mean that adding a supplement won't give them that extra little bit ... just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean it's wrong. People thought fire was evil once upon a time. You have to move with the times ...... 

I have far and. Beyond the knowledge I need to know socks enough to know your a clown who feels insecure to feed the best there his and spout on about a load of rubbish in sa 37 Socks yas at it again yas don't need the fruit and veg less ya thinking of producing chimps ya sound like that,you don't feed the variety of flesh I do I can guarantee that,don't miser eat into something you wish to believe in i feed all flesh and by that I mean all read again fallen stock lamb beef seems like you read only what yas need ta see and believe in ,I'll say it again what man needs to know adzact amounts of animosity bits proteins in there welps ,this has come about be ause of the disclaimer if a supplement that's shite but be ause you feed it yes feed it tell me the adzact break down to the gramm aswell has your complete barf plus dry the adzact amounts of all the I take of anions virus etc etc they are taking on board chances are with bits additives ta gonna upset the balance of complete yas already feeding ya clown ,one can give and overload to the affect of uselessness in proteins minerals vita etc. And like I said we knew yrs ago sa37 was shite ,it's you who not moved on with the times ,hat do you think his a sheep carcass made up from a complete range of everything need some with a goat a rabbit no need fa a butcher here socks we own a butcher shop in our family  lol no mates need ,you surely are stuck in a time of of your own warp Barr feck off back ta. Ya supplements and watch yas don't overdose.atb bill

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It's difficult to read half of what you write bill but I can understand enough to know your a fukcing know all that knows very little ... flesh flesh flesh  we all feed flesh for fukc sake I have done for over forty years it's nothing new while carcas sheeps heads tripe beef chicken lamb blah blah blah it's fukcing easy bill it's not rocket science ... what makes the difference is having the knowledge to know what little extras to add to give the dog that bit more ... and if you think you can get all the vitamins and minerals a dog needs just from feeding a raw diet without adding any veg or fruits vitamins then you really are f***ing clueless and need educating as you obviously don't know as much as you think you do ... as for upsetting the balance the dogs are not getting a fukcing shovel full on each meal it's a 1/4 of a teaspoon for fukc sake that just gives them a complete balance of what anhard working dog needs ... perhaps your not working your dogs hard enough to test them bill and the sausage rolls and pasties your feeding them from your shop is enough feed for them ....

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