Vitamins and minerals

[Guest vin]

11 hours ago, Jord271011 said:

To be honest I’ve never used anything apart cod liver oil but that was only for the larger cross

no good for dogs apparently.. pure salmon oil is what I've been using.

[billhardy 2,342]

Vin yas on the ball ,salmon oil far and always better than these mickle mickle concocsions ,used salmon oil fa long time instant energy .sa 37 his a poor multi bits fa performance types we learned forty plus yrs ago I'll say it again right diet yas don't need it  quality snapp,in the form of. Flesh bones meat offal salmon heads from the fish monger tripe has all  those bits that sa37 contains plus more blood cleansers instant energy absorbed quickly then the unwanted fats stored , the vegetation etc his there in unwashed belly straight out a the beef cattle .vin his right coder liver oil has no use fa a jukel not in the same league has salmon oil the top graded kind his fuel creame da la creame plus the jukels performance levels will peak ta the desired levels even poor stamina type jukels seem ta find that extra bit more go fa the best the cheep crap usually comes out in there crap poor multi fits do just that  I often heard of the bone meal considers given welps this etc fish meal etc ,much prefer a chicken carcass or lamb rack ,what do we know ,top grade bits come from there source natural snapp I have seen all types of performance types put through there training regime prior and in full seasonal swing from pits in there keep coursing types lampers etc and the heavily lamped jukel  and I would say the heavily lamped thee times a week lamper gets the physical abuse on its bodily functions ,and  raw fed correctly his no need fa nought except maybe a hydrate drink  atb bill

[downsouth 7,143]

2 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Out of interest, could you explain the differences that you see please, Socks?

If anyone is seeing a difference from using a sprinkle of sa37 on their dogs diet i dont believe they are feeding as good a diet as they think they are.

[sandymere 8,263]

3 minutes ago, downsouth said:

If anyone is seeing a difference from using a sprinkle of sa37 on their dogs diet i dont believe they are feeding as good a diet as they think they are.

Likely care giver placebo, vets and owners are naturally prone to see an improvement after taking an action they feel will give an improvement irrespective of there actually being an improvement, just how our brains work..

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232744634_Caregiver_placebo_effect_for_dogs_with_lameness_for_osteoarthritis

 

[billhardy 2,342]

11 hours ago, Black neck said:

You don't bother wi all that lark then bill

Blacky when I was younger I would have give ought a bash if affordable it usually wasint ,I learned through the jukels tried and tested performances what they needed da hard graft etc.i found fish heads were superior to fish meal they get the correct type with the heads lots of bits etc everything raw and natural his superior to any man formed concoction,I learned while tripe was not has nutritionally of value has say lamb or beef ,it was still very good just need larger amounts in comparission to some flesh..the beauty of tripe it's very very easily digestable hence utilised has fuel quickly it ain't the most expensive flesh fa no reason on the pet market I have ran jukels hard on minced salmon heads and tripe all season in times gone by hammering the jukels they don't need as 37 or ought fecking else fa that matter they got it all in abundance in the diet ,I suppose if one feels they need this and that out a tub well it's like that but yas got all yas need in a raw fed diet fed correctly which lots don't ,the variety of the flesh adds different bits minerals etc ,the closest complete type flesh his tripe few fishes heads alternate carcass chicken with tripe y'all soon give what they need in abundance. And socks seen has canines wolves etc been around since millennia  can yas tell how they still here with opening a tub of sa37 lol.  A growing welp needs plenty of cacium bones etc phosorus it grows a skeletal form before  most else the most important the skeletal formation grown slowly,not pushed with fake bits and minerals my advice to thee get them welps off that dust and on plenty tripe and bones.atb bill

[C.green 3,229]

27 minutes ago, downsouth said:

If anyone is seeing a difference from using a sprinkle of sa37 on their dogs diet i dont believe they are feeding as good a diet as they think they are.

I agree with that alot do feed raw but not enough to make a difference im quite lucky i can get quality dog snap pretty easily so i can feed plenty. Good balanced diet bit of ultimate oil and good aftercare after a hard day/night supplement aint gonna make your dog run faster or catch more.

[Black neck 15,841]

1 hour ago, billhardy said:

Blacky when I was younger I would have give ought a bash if affordable it usually wasint ,I learned through the jukels tried and tested performances what they needed da hard graft etc.i found fish heads were superior to fish meal they get the correct type with the heads lots of bits etc everything raw and natural his superior to any man formed concoction,I learned while tripe was not has nutritionally of value has say lamb or beef ,it was still very good just need larger amounts in comparission to some flesh..the beauty of tripe it's very very easily digestable hence utilised has fuel quickly it ain't the most expensive flesh fa no reason on the pet market I have ran jukels hard on minced salmon heads and tripe all season in times gone by hammering the jukels they don't need as 37 or ought fecking else fa that matter they got it all in abundance in the diet ,I suppose if one feels they need this and that out a tub well it's like that but yas got all yas need in a raw fed diet fed correctly which lots don't ,the variety of the flesh adds different bits minerals etc ,the closest complete type flesh his tripe few fishes heads alternate carcass chicken with tripe y'all soon give what they need in abundance. And socks seen has canines wolves etc been around since millennia  can yas tell how they still here with opening a tub of sa37 lol.  A growing welp needs plenty of cacium bones etc phosorus it grows a skeletal form before  most else the most important the skeletal formation grown slowly,not pushed with fake bits and minerals my advice to thee get them welps off that dust and on plenty tripe and bones.atb bill

Few beans knocks um up a gear tho 

There's no denying that

[Born Hunter 17,751]

1 hour ago, downsouth said:

If anyone is seeing a difference from using a sprinkle of sa37 on their dogs diet i dont believe they are feeding as good a diet as they think they are.

Yeah, just interested in Socks' view too though. Recently I've been looking more into the micro-nutrient composition of various raw food types to hopefully ensure the balance is right over time. I'd imagine bone, tripe, mixed offal and kelp would pretty comprehensively cover a dogs micro-nutrient needs? Not sure really on the necessity of veg.

[MikeyMJL 128]

The single best thing I’ve seen that improves my dogs performance is an hour before loading the car to go lamping, give him a half pint of Lamlac at quarter to half strength. He’s a beddy whippet so I’d give a bigger dog a larger serving. It’s nothing to do with the nutrition in the Lamlac, but rather the fact the dog is well hydrated and pissing like a racehorse before we set off.

[billhardy 2,342]

1 minute ago, MikeyMJL said:

The single best thing I’ve seen that improves my dogs performance is an hour before loading the car to go lamping, give him a half pint of Lamlac at quarter to half strength. He’s a beddy whippet so I’d give a bigger dog a larger serving. It’s nothing to do with the nutrition in the Lamlac, but rather the fact the dog is well hydrated and pissing like a racehorse before we set off.

Mikes dead right there fella properly hydrated organs tripe does adzactly the same plus nutrients easily absorbed lots tend ta think this buiscuit don't dry em out it does even when soaked and so does most man made dry vits etc.atb bill

[billhardy 2,342]

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

Few beans knocks um up a gear tho 

There's no denying that

Defo blacky especially the runner bean variety atb bill

[mr powers 876]

Load of bollox 

[Neobliviscaris1776 1,998]

1 hour ago, MikeyMJL said:

The single best thing I’ve seen that improves my dogs performance is an hour before loading the car to go lamping, give him a half pint of Lamlac at quarter to half strength. He’s a beddy whippet so I’d give a bigger dog a larger serving. It’s nothing to do with the nutrition in the Lamlac, but rather the fact the dog is well hydrated and pissing like a racehorse before we set off.

I'd agree. Keeping a dog hydrated is extremely important. Many issues can arise from not being well hydrated, muscle soreness, tightness, inflexibility.

[Black neck 15,841]

26 minutes ago, mr powers said:

Load of bollox 

What is

[low plains drifter 10,256]

2 hours ago, Black neck said:

Few beans knocks um up a gear tho 

There's no denying that

Old mate of mine used to give his racing whippets beans, and once gave this as a possible explanation as to the stamina and recovery rate of one of his dogs when somebody remarked on it, he had some top dogs when he was at the game, Manpower, Sarah Marie to name a couple,