Welsh_red 4,755 Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Greyman said: They never left us It looks so stunning. Size on its paws aswell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 3,964 Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Greyman said: They never left us It''s got some stride on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,340 Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Bull crosses will be doubling in price in carlisle as we speak 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 29,189 Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Funny how no one has picked up on the fact that the director for Scottish natural heritage in the article is called Ronald McDonald I,m suspecting an alternative reason for the Lynx program now, like the mcmuntjak burger or the big bambi with fry,s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted August 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 https://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/sheep/exclusive-sheep-farmer-speaks-out-over-horrific-lynx-attack I just don't see that any benefit of releasing them can possibly outweigh the negative aspects! They certainly do not often attack people, but we all know they will at some point, and what about children and pets, let alone assorted livestock as above! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 29,189 Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Deker said: https://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/sheep/exclusive-sheep-farmer-speaks-out-over-horrific-lynx-attack I just don't see that any benefit of releasing them can possibly outweigh the negative aspects! They certainly do not often attack people, but we all know they will at some point, and what about children and pets, let alone assorted livestock as above! That is a bred in captivity escaped animal and offers no comparison to a wild Lynx, your also reading an article from the farmers weekly that are completely biased and have opposed the Lynx since it was first talked about, they were also happy to pin every single dead sheep on that Lynx without a scrap of evidence, I don't think there has ever been a Lynx attack on a person anywere in the world and apart from one country they average 0.4 sheep per year per Lynx, on one stretch of road on the brecons they loose around 30 a year but can't see us stopping the traffic, they are a small game hunter mostly taking birds,rabbits and the like upto an odd deer, I think the uk needs an abundant alpha predator after all they are native and we have systematically wiped them out along with the Bears and wolves and I can't see fox,s and badgers tackling the deer epidemic that's sweeping the country, so bring on the Lynx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,755 Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Greyman said: That is a bred in captivity escaped animal and offers no comparison to a wild Lynx, your also reading an article from the farmers weekly that are completely biased and have opposed the Lynx since it was first talked about, they were also happy to pin every single dead sheep on that Lynx without a scrap of evidence, I don't think there has ever been a Lynx attack on a person anywere in the world and apart from one country they average 0.4 sheep per year per Lynx, on one stretch of road on the brecons they loose around 30 a year but can't see us stopping the traffic, they are a small game hunter mostly taking birds,rabbits and the like upto an odd deer, I think the uk needs an abundant alpha predator after all they are native and we have systematically wiped them out along with the Bears and wolves and I can't see fox,s and badgers tackling the deer epidemic that's sweeping the country, so bring on the Lynx How many deer tho? Can't see them making major difference to numbers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 29,189 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) Nor me if I,m honest, the muntjac may be a different matter and though they are not everywhere at the moment there spread is pretty epic, almost everyone I catch on camera has a youngster in tow or looks pregnant, and in the last 3/4 years they have spread from the Cotswolds right down to the suburbs of Bristol, but it's surprising how many so called hunters I talk to local who still have,nt seen one, one more thing and I,m not a biologist by any stretch of the imagination but I think that deer need to have predators to keep them moving as they tend to overgraze certain areas, like the ones you see in the same field at the same time every day on the way to work, a cat even just passing through would move them around a bit avoiding over grazing, ?? Edited August 12, 2018 by Greyman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 You are forgetting deer are territorial mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 What positive can be drawn from reintroducing a species that hasn't been here for over a millennia? What realistic ecological impact will it have? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,755 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ChrisJones said: What positive can be drawn from reintroducing a species that hasn't been here for over a millennia? What realistic ecological impact will it have? They say deer numbers. But im sure shooting the deer would probably be a better idea 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: They say deer numbers. But im sure shooting the deer would probably be a better idea I'm sure it would play a factor but surely this is the equivalent of introducing a non-native species into a foreign eco-system? I get that they were here once but the time span is so long you have to wonder what the point is and what the true cost of reintroduction will be. They can't manage the species that are here already. Just look at Salford. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ChrisJones said: What positive can be drawn from reintroducing a species that hasn't been here for over a millennia? What realistic ecological impact will it have? None just another crack pot idea notice it's always wolves and wild boar lynx etc etc they want to dump in the countryside. As you said couldn't give a f**k about the other species already here or introducing trees or plants. Lot of bollocks imo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,899 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 make ye laugh ,,if a cat kills a deer its nature ,if a dog takes a deer its a big fine and the possibility of jail lol 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kerny92 1,246 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, jigsaw said: make ye laugh ,,if a cat kills a deer its nature ,if a dog takes a deer its a big fine and the possibility of jail lol You know us humans aren't allowed many pleasures for free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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